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Bill: Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4184
Description[?]:
| OOC: So, as you know, the past Electoral Law had a problem: it was against the provision of the game rules: 22.3.7 RP laws which require early elections in specified circumstances. Players may negotiate voluntary conventions amongst themselves on when early elections are appropriate, but Moderation will not enforce these. 22.3.8 RP laws which require parties to vote in a particular way or to propose or not propose specific measures. However, a RP law may outline consequences for parties which try and then fail to pass a particular bill. For example, under a constitution which bans republican parties, a party might be banned if it tries and then fails to remove the monarchy in a bill vote. The party would then be expected to inactivate in order to simulate its removal from the legislature, although the player would be at liberty to role-play a rebellion led by an extra-parliamentary group. So, a new Electoral Law should be understood as an INFORMAL AGREEMENT between the players, that means the mods could not be called to intervene and enforce it, therefore, it will reside in the hands of individual players the responsibility, maturity and fairness in implementing this law in RP, which however will always be shown as a non-binding rules of the game but as an informal agreement. The previous Electoral Law will be pasted without too changes, but in this new version I add something and I specified in better way some points to avoid confusion. Here the new text of the RP Electoral Law (INFORMAL AGREEMENT NOT BINDING BY THE GAME RULES): """""""This law will determine the electoral process within the Istalian Republic, the prerogatives and the behavior of the President of the Republic and of the Parties for what regard the elections. ---Party coalitions and Presidential candidates--- The Parties which want endorse a common candidate to the Presidency of the Republic and are aimed by form a common Government with common programs can join in coalition and announce it at least one year before the election (OOC: time ). ---Appointment of a new President of the Council of Minister and of a new Government--- The Presidente della Repubblica (President of the Republic), after the necessary consultations, shall appoint as new Presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri (President of the Council of Minister) a person which is expression of the coalition which has won the election, that is the one which has gained the majority of the seats into the Camera dei Deputati (Chamber of Deputies). As already specified by the Constitutional Laws, the Presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri will submit a Government team which the Presidente della Repubblica shall present to the Chamber of Deputies for the vote of confiance. If no coalitions gained the majority into the Camera dei Deputati, the Presidente della Repubblica shall try in every case to form a government, which could be a government supported by two or more coalition, a minority government with parliamentary outside support or, as a last resort, a minority government led by the President. If this is not possible in anyway, the Presidente della Repubblica shall call early election. In case of war or national emergency and there is not a Government, the Parliament with a 2/3th majority resolution can give special Power to the President which will be able to form a national unity government (OOC: in case there is not too much time to present a cabinet proposal is assumed throught an RP bill of the President's party the formation of the national unity government) If the coalition which support the Presidente della Repubblica has gained the majority into the Camera dei Deputati, the Presidente della Repubblica, presenting a Government expression of his coalition, will lead the Government acting as HoS and HoG, with the Presidente del Consiglio dei Ministry which will act as a right hand, a coordinator of the Ministers and of the Council. If the majority coalitions or alliances in the Camera dei Deputati are not the one that supported the winner of the Presidential election, the Presidente della Repubblica shall present a cabinet expression of this majority and he will act for the rest of the legislature as a HoS while the HoG will be really the Presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri. The members of the coalition which supports the Government are free to propose P.d.l. and there are no obligation for the other members to support it (provided that this does not go against internal agreements between members of the coalition). The D.d.l. instead are expression of the common program of the Government coalition and if one or more members do not support this kind of bills, this will involve the start of a government crisis in front of which the Presidente della Repubblica shall either present a new cabinet or, in the impossibility of the latter option, call early elections (OOC: This provision shall not be applied in the event of an abstention by a member or members of the Government coalition which frustrates the pass of a D.d.l. for lack of time to log in by the player/s, but the player/s must announce it publicly). The previous provisons are not valid in case of early election called due the impossibility to recognize a majority able to support a Government because the Presidente della Repubblica must call it as soon as possible. ---OOC: Inactivity of a Party--- In case the inactivation of a party determines the change of the internal balance of the Parliament that means the government majority becomes the minority, as INFORMAL AGREEMENT between the players we establish to call early elections. To avoid that some player or players could abuse of it and take advantage of it, if a party bacame inactive but this event does not prejudge the stability of the Government and its Parliamentary majority, this law cannot be used to ask early elections. So, if a party member of the opposition, in a coalition or not, became inactive, members of the opposition cannot demand the respect of this provision. And at the same time if a government party became inactive (also if hold the HoG position) but this do not prejudge the Government (so the government parties coalition into the parliament maintain the majority) the opposition party cannot ask the respect of this provision and the other Government parties can decide to form another Government or in any case demand early elections but they are not obbliged. Given the fact that this is an INFORMAL AGREEMENT, the respect of this will reside in the responsability and HONOUR of each player. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:41:57, March 20, 2017 CET | From | Partito Ambientalista Socialista Istalia | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | We strongly support |
| Date | 13:36:20, March 20, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | Of course, the last point of the RP Law sould not used to advantage a party or a coalition, so, if the a party bacame inactive but this event does not prejudge the stability of the Government and its Parliamentary majority, this law cannot be used to ask early elections. So, if a party member of the opposition, in a coalition or not, became inactive, members of the opposition cannot demand the respect of this provision. And at the same time If a government party became inactive (also if hold the HoG position) but this do not prejudge the Government (so the majority into the parliament maintain the majority) the opposition party cannot ask the respect of this provision but the other Government parties can decide to demand early elections but they are not obbliged. If only one party hold the Government but it became inactive, of course the other parties can demand early elections (thi last precisation it is almost useless but I want be clear on all the poasible cases - if you have other possible cases please express you). |
| Date | 17:09:31, March 20, 2017 CET | From | Partito Moderato Centrodestra | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | I can agree |
| Date | 17:15:50, March 20, 2017 CET | From | Partito dei Democratici Istaliani | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | We agree |
| Date | 23:07:39, March 20, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | Agree |
| Date | 11:23:19, March 21, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the Debate on the new RP Legge Elettorale e Coalizioni di Governo / RP Electoral Law and Government Coalitions |
| Message | As explained to me by the mods, I can enforce an nationmaster early election policy only establish a precise %. For example, the 20% of seats become empty, or the 15% or the 10%. I could enforce this policy but separate by the INFORMAL AGREEMENT about the inactivation of a government party. So, I invite all the players to establish an INFORMAL AGREEMENT with the guideline shown into the description of this bill. I prefer in fact do not establish a Nationmaster policy with a too low %, that, for coherency, I would have to enforce it each time a party with more than 10% become inactive also if do not prejudge the parliamentary balance. So, I propose an INFORMAL AGREEMENT, but as I said many times: at the first infringement of this INFORMAL AGREEMENT based on players' responsability and HONOUR I will consider null and void all this RP Law. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 441 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 194 |
| Random fact: Players are expected to behave in a courteous, co-operative manner and make a reasonable effort to act with the consent of all players involved, even where the rules do not make consent strictly necessary. In particular, players have a responsibility to take reasonable care that other players are not misinformed either about the role-play or the Game Rules. |
| Random quote: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - Howard Zinn |