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Bill: OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4190
Description[?]:
| I would like propose you to begin a RP inside Istalia which could be called "the 80's / 90's", that will consist in a long evolution of the political and social situation in Istalia which will reach a considerable height in prosperity and various excesses and then will experience a severe drop. Synopsis: after the economic crisis, istalian growth begins again and stronger than before and we can say that the country, the economy and the society will experience what arrived through Italy in the 80's / early 90's. Prosperity, luxury, dissolution, drug, excesses, etc... and also corruption, kickbacks and bribes from right to left, and everything will end up with a judicial Maxi-inquiry like "mani pulite" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_pulite), maybe to be set in the first few years of 4200 (4205-4210), which will be followed by a general reorganization of parties (maybe we may change our names, not permanently, but for one or two terms and then everyone will be free to keep the new name or go back to the old one). Almost all the parties will be touched by the scandal (maybe we can leave out a couple, maybe the newest if we will have new ones or the parties which for some years before the scandal will be the last in number of seats). What do you think about it? I received already the green light from a couplw of parties, I'm waiting for other opinions. The RP should be obviously respected in the sense that the parties have to remember that the Country is in expansion phases, the unemployement rate are decreasing, the incomes are increasing and the society is more and more flourishing and opulent. Furthermore, I discussed with Lionking1 (PPC) and we would like propose to add to the previosu RP another internal RP which will see the current coalition change dramatically due to a take of position of some parties on the side of a Grandeur and militaristic and interventist policy to which will be opposed a more pacifist and less interventionist coalition. The "Grandeur coalition" will improve a more militaristic policy also internally to the nation with a even more increase of the influence of the National Defence, Armed forces and Intelligence, on the society. With PPC we proposed to wait one or two terms and then generate an event: some terroristic attacks which will push differnet parties to form a National Security coalition or something like that and begin a process to limit various liberties (assembly rights, military whi h back up the police, an increase in the monitoring of citizens by part of the Government, etc...) and increase the role and power of military all leaded by the strong man of the moment,Verhoeven, in search of glory for the Nation (with various reelection to the Presidenxy). Plot twist: in reality the Terroristic attacks was organized by the secret service or they pushed terroristic group to attack us, to give a strong motivation to the National Security coalition to act in restrictive way. And will arrives also political murders, disappearances of people, a climate of fear, etc... At the end the corruption scandal will involve also the military and the eatablishment of the Grandeur Coalition but no one will be able to prove the involvement of the intelligence in the terroristic and also Verhoeven will achieve to be released by the judiciary for lack of proof (like Andreotti in Istalia). SO, what do you think? An RP to invigorate the internal RP (the current coalitions in various form lasted for almost a century!) |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:05:50, March 27, 2017 CET | From | Partito Ambientalista Socialista Istalia | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Agree, will be funny |
| Date | 20:19:04, March 27, 2017 CET | From | Movimento Federalista Istaliano - I.p.I. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Mmmm... |
| Date | 08:44:59, March 29, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I would like reassure MFI that indeed, this RP will not affect the game mechanics and above all will not affect the freedom of the parties to act like they want. The only provisions for next decades will be to talk, in case of news and proposal, about an increasing prosperity but maybe you can also act to criticize also the negative effects of excess of prosperity (luxory, moral sense decrease, the inevitable social conflict, etc... |
| Date | 22:53:57, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Fronte Socialista - A.P.I. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I agree |
| Date | 15:30:47, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Partito dei Democratici Istaliani | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I agree |
| Date | 16:30:31, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | And after the "normalization" of the situation, pratically all the submerse history will never revealed, but remain as a "myth", an history that many know or suspect but about that there are no proof to show. Like many obscure histories of the first republic in italy. We have to decide: - What terrorist attack? Explosion in stations? Assault to government buildings? Kidnapings and Murders of politicians and agents of forces of order? The usual things. - What terrorists? I thought to an Anarchist no global organization which attack the imperialistic and globalist government (obviously this is the official history released by the government agency) - Who are the politicians which will die? - And what parties will form the "National Security coalition" which will support Verhoeven? I already talk with PPC to form this coalition and maybe also FS, which seems very fierce. Strange coalition, it is true, but pratically the argoument which will divide the national security government from the opposition will be military and interventionist policy. |
| Date | 16:59:40, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Pratically Vwrhoeven should be endorsed to make impersonate him the unknown villain who pulls the strings of the plot and which will have after a controversial reputation, some said is a good president, some said too authoritarian, some said a bad president, etc... For this the coalition have to be very large. |
| Date | 17:58:03, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Partito Moderato Centrodestra | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I want some kind of a Egyptian style of economy where the Army controls the economy. We put monopolies are enforced and in the hands of private companied who are controled by national defence. This will generate massive income for our military itself. |
| Date | 18:25:17, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Non mi piace molto, sarà un gioco troppo complicato e a rischio incongruenza. Votiamo, se fossi l'unico contrario non mi opporrò. I do not like it, will be too complicated game and at risk of inconsistency. vote, if I were the only in contrast I will not oppose. |
| Date | 20:33:31, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Posso fare una contro-proposta? Questa è la mia idea: All'improvviso avvengono due o tre attacchi terroristici nelle nostre città. La polizia accerta che si tratta di terrorismo Quanzaro, ideato da gruppi paramilitari che vogliono l'indipendenza dal giogo istaliano. Questo scatenerebbe un putiferio politico e spingerebbe tutti i partiti a schirarsi da una parte e dall'altra. La campagna elettorale sarebbe molto interessante. Che ne pensate? (Can I make a counter-proposal? This is my idea: Suddenly happen two or three terrorist attacks in our cities. Police ensures that it is Quanzaro terrorism, conceived by paramilitary groups that want independence from istalian yoke. This would trigger a political uproar and would push all parties to join one side and the other. The campaign would be very interesting. What do you think?) [sorry for my bad english, it's an automatic translation] |
| Date | 09:29:34, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | But currently it would be not realistic! We had quanzarian presidents and party leaders, we have party which support also their positions, one of the large companies in istalia is owned by a quanzarian family, it would be not coherent with the current situation. Well, Yesterday I thought: a group of Wantunian-Kalopian anarcho-syndacalist! Wantuni currently is the far west, there is not government, state, nothing and since long time Istalian companies invest and operate largely in wantuni. Given the fact of our large and multinational economy, our current international position, etc... It could be more realistic and anti imperialist and anti globalist group. And given the fact that there is no government in Wantuni, we can play without involve wantuni players. It is a groupo of anti-corporativist which do not want anymore that istalian companies exploit their resouce and people. In this way we have the pretest to give attention to our armed forces and secret services for an international menace. Than, the leadership of Verhoeven will take advantage of this and will creatw also fake attack to makw grow the fear. And just right to avoid inconsistency, my idea was to create a large coalition to be sure to take the majority and to support Verhoeven for the next elections and so that support the military take of influence. |
| Date | 09:49:31, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | And playing we can also agree to make sure the support to Verhoeven for president for some terms but assume that it was elected thanks to the fear of the people and by the new National Coalition. The National Coalition will be united by the fear and the needs of emergencies situation. But I though also that during the last terms of the "Verhoeven rule" the parliament can give him special power to face the menace and so creatw also national unity governments. For thia RP we should play a part and follow a plot. Than after the end of RP we will retourn to play normally |
| Date | 10:31:23, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Furthermore, now given the fact that in Saridan won the liberal party, I also asked if Saridan allow us to accept an RP about a military intervention in Saridan to support the new Liberal government against pro Apartheid groups whose power has collapsed and which try to make fall the new government. A further motivaizone and for the anti-globalization, anti-interventionists to like Ambientalists and Pacifist and for the government to ask other powers. |
| Date | 11:48:23, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Partito Ambientalista Socialista Istalia | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Agree, ready to play this RP, i think that this will be a great way to change the boring play of "win election/change laws" or "lose election/oppose to change". |
| Date | 11:51:06, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Off course! After the RP the left will have to do so much... Ajhahahahahahah |
| Date | 11:52:54, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | For the future, when we will have an oppressive atmospher, immage Verhoeven as a mix between Palpatine and andreotti ahanahahahahahahah |
| Date | 19:22:55, April 02, 2017 CET | From | Partito dei Democratici Istaliani | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | It will be a great challenge: pacifism vs terrorism |
| Date | 08:52:15, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | ok that's good in the same way, it seems interesting. |
| Date | 08:54:55, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | when it begins? |
| Date | 09:54:11, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I have lauched the vote on the bill just this moorning, but given the fact that most part of the parties have already enthusiastically given their support to the RP, i'll go to create an articles on the forum right now. I'll create something of spectacular! ;) |
| Date | 11:41:21, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | No, wait. You spoke of the early 4200. Now is too early, there are the elections and it would be wrong to start it now. I support it, but as of 4200. |
| Date | 11:48:18, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | "Maxi-inquiry like "mani pulite", maybe to be set in the first few years of 4200 (4205-4210), which will be followed by a general reorganization of parties." È previsto per i primi anni del 4200 la maxi inchiesta che metterà un punto al "regime" di Verhoeven e che vedrà buona parte dei partiti coinvolti e la fine delle lobby militari-industriali. |
| Date | 11:49:09, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | It is planned for early 4200 the maxi investigation that will put an end to the "regime" of Verhoeven and will see most of the parties involved and the end of the military-industrial lobby. The end of the RP! |
| Date | 12:19:58, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | Ah... I received the green light from a party in Wantuni for the RP about the anarcho-syndacalist wantunian terrorists. |
| Date | 13:16:58, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | I don't understand how to reconcile the two RP. |
| Date | 14:18:00, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | During thw period of the Verhoeven rule the corruption between the parties which support him will increase due to the involvement of the politics in the establishment of some big corporates which will arrive to control most part of the economy, thanks also to the increase of power of Verhoeven due to the fear caused by the terrorism. |
| Date | 16:33:31, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Partito Moderato Centrodestra | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | This RP starts in 4194? |
| Date | 16:37:57, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | We want wait for the 4194? I thought to start it also today. But if most part of you said me to postpone, we can postpone. P.A.I. said me he supported to start also today. |
| Date | 16:41:54, April 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the OOC: RP Authorization bill: Golden Apogee, the Verhoeven Rule and the Spectacular Fall of the Political System |
| Message | So, sorry for the confusion, given the request we will start from the next term and so I will wait for the next election to publish the article about the terror attacks. |
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| yes |
Total Seats: 472 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 163 |
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