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Bill: Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186
Details
Submitted by[?]: New People's Party of Rutania
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4187
Description[?]:
| If undocumented immigrants are not causing any harm, why waste government money and time attempting to find them and expel them? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Current: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:55:40, March 27, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | This is part of the PPR's platform for this term. Open to debate! |
| Date | 23:13:11, March 27, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | There is truth to this, why should the goverment wastes it's money on this? And currently we don't as we do not actively search for them. So why send them home if there found? Three major reasons. First it is unfair to those who must wait for a period of time to Legaly imagerat, those who come here legally have a right to enter before those who are coming illegal. Second, we know who were letting in legally, where as we don't know who these people that are entering illegally are? They my be criminals? For a fact we know that most are unskilled works. Which inflates are labour pool, which takes away jobs from those who are native to our country or those who came here legally. In addition to this it drops are lower classes wages. Third, as the PPR forget these individuals are not taxed, which means they take advantage of the governments healthcare and welfare plans, when they don't even pay into them. So this is why we need at least this minimum level of security and fairness with them. And the PPR says it's for the Rutainan people! If they were they would be pushing for us to activity search for them. |
| Date | 00:26:22, March 28, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | The PPR is for the people. All of them. Could the Rutania Party please provide the Assembly with the "facts" that prove that most undocumented immigrants are unskilled workers? In part due to your party, health care is private, so undocumented immigrants would also have to pay for their healthcare. With all due respect, your arguments are irrelevant. |
| Date | 01:03:42, March 28, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | Really? The PPR forgets the Rutaina Party placed in its healthcare Reform that those who are of the low income braket will have there healthcare partly or full paid for. And before the PPR points at us about healthcare they should look at themselves, they put in place before a free healthcare which was easily taken advangtage of and is still trying to put it back in place. It should be happy we have a system in place to help make sure that a large part of are healthcare is not taken advantage of. However we still do have parts which can still be taken advantage of and the current government is in the prosess of changing. As for the facts, we let skilled and educated individuals come and work here quiet easily, intact it should be stricker however this idea was turned down by the assembly, a fair part of democracy. This is besides the point, we let those who can contribute to Rutaina success in with open arms, we place basic barriers and tests to make sure they have these said abilities. These barriers are easy to pass, so if these Illegal immigrants are as skilled as you say why don't they take the legal method? It should be easy for them, should it not? The truth is they are not skilled nor educated, as such they can't pass these basic requirements. The Rutaina Party stands by it's people and for the nations prosperity. The PPR should too. And on that point, all people? The PPR has a responsibility to the Rutainans who voted them in?! Their care and prosperity take priority. Or has the PPR forgotten this after radicalizing? It's a shame to see such a prevously great and respectible party fall to such lows. |
| Date | 01:32:23, March 28, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | In the spirit of compromise and friendship, my party has decided to change the proposal in this bill. When discovered, we propose that undocumented immigrants are put into centres for them to enter Rutania through the correct and legal ways, or be expelled. We would love to talk more with the Rutania Party about this, and are open to more compromise. In regards to your comments on our party's "radicalization," our leader, Ms. Manelesi called for radical legislation. However, one of our party's main components is compromise. We are more than willing to budge on our platform, in order to move in the right direction. The People's Party is still very much the Liberal Party, our new name represents our desire to serve every citizen of Rutania. I assure you my party takes great care in working for our people. We have been called amateurs, communists and radicals. We do not try and serve for any particular ideology, we work for Rutania. |
| Date | 01:44:31, March 28, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | The RP is not opposed to this perposal but will hold judgement on this perposal for now. |
| Date | 21:53:05, March 28, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Undocumented Immigrant Act of 4186 |
| Message | Immigrant labor is necessary for a healthy economy, and is often more affordable. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 39 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 161 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 50 |
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