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Bill: Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221
Details
Submitted by[?]: Patriots Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4222
Description[?]:
| It's time for parties to fall on which side of government they wish to have. These changes will finally show who means what they say, or who says words for the sake of votes. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The salaries of members of parliament and/or government.
Old value:: Members of parliament and/or government receive the highest salaries in the country, far above the salaries of other citizens.
Current: Members of parliament and/or government are entitled to a comparatively large salary.
Proposed: Members of parliament and/or government are entitled to a comparatively average salary.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 60
Current: 60
Proposed: 30
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:14:13, June 04, 2017 CET | From | White Rose | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This Act would make the current President, a member of the PP, hereditary head of state for life! We will never vote for that! James Stinson Deputy Leader of the RCP |
| Date | 23:51:32, June 04, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This act would mean an election would have to be held every 2 and a 1/2 years, we will not support this bill. Douglas Brown, Republican Party Secretary. |
| Date | 00:09:24, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Royalist Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, However some might disagree on article 2 to 4. It's important to stress the importance of article 1, since the Socialist Party has no need in creating a majority cabinet with the current article in place. It's therefore important to change article 1, perhaps even in another bill. |
| Date | 02:16:21, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I disagree with articles 2 and 3. My party will table an alternative amendment I hope the royalist Party and others will support instead. |
| Date | 04:51:44, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Patriots Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, As expected the parties vote down measures they claim to have supported. Also the RCP must be the most clueless leadership in the world. Of course we are not suggesting that Mary Peters be ruler for life, it clearly means a return to the Monarchy. Alas the true colours of these fake parties has been shown, now they cannot criticise our changes to Luthori as they have rejected the chance to change it back. I guess that makes us all PATRIOTS! Peter Wright MP |
| Date | 07:36:01, June 05, 2017 CET | From | White Rose | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Party of Patriots are imbeciles if they do not see this Act would turn Mary Peters into an hereditary head of state for life. James Stinson Deputy Leader of the RCP OOC: game mechanics mean unless you elect a full stop (.) before making this change, the current head of state would become hereditary and that would be the PP's Mary Peters. This is very clear in the game rules and I won't argue IC about it |
| Date | 07:47:01, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Patriots Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Haven't the Monarchy contested elections and lost now on numerous occasions. These parties want an undemocratic head of state for life and yet they still oppose it. They want everything and propose nothing, they then run when a proposal is made which meets their demands. We now know that the RCP are undemocratic scum who must be removed from the nation's parliament with immediate effect. Peter Wright MP OOC: Stop demanding a monarchy when they won't win elections and you won't accept another hereditary head of state. You and your like cannot just demand everything without making some concessions. |
| Date | 15:21:05, June 05, 2017 CET | From | White Rose | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Party of Patriots fail to realise we are standing in elections, including Presidential ones, and we will not move to restore the Monarch to political power until the time is right and the support of the people is assured once more. James Stinson Deputy Leader of the RCP OOC: I haven't demanded a Monarchy through legislation once, because I know what I need to do first! I can RP for their return all I want! |
| Date | 16:30:56, June 05, 2017 CET | From | Patriots Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment Bill of 4221 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The issue is now closed as far as we are concerned these parties have turned their backs on the monarchy. Long live the President of the Republic. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 231 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 169 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
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