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Bill: Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2188
Description[?]:
| We propose to open up the lumber industry again while showing concern to the ecological impacts of forest clearing. Therefore, licenses will be relatively difficult to obtain and will also incur a heavy licensing fee. Also, tree replanting levels would be shifted to replacement level instead of over-replacement, thus limiting the likelihood of extreme forest fires. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Forest management.
Old value:: There is a national agency which owns and manages all forest land.
Current: There is a national agency which owns and manages all forest land.
Proposed: All forestry is performed by private companies.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning forest protection.
Old value:: Forests have strictly enforced protection. Felling is limited to fire breaks.
Current: Forests are protected. Logging is allowed by licence only.
Proposed: Forests are protected. Logging is allowed by licence only.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on tree plantation.
Old value:: The government requires tree plantation at higher than replacement levels for all logging or clearance operations.
Current: The government does not intervene with regard to the replantation of trees.
Proposed: The government requires tree plantation at replacement level for all logging or clearance operations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:01:55, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | Article 1, no. 2 & 3 .. yes. |
| Date | 16:31:21, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | Article 2 yes, 1 & 3 no. |
| Date | 16:57:48, February 16, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | Yes to all articles. |
| Date | 17:27:29, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | "thus limiting the likelihood of extreme forest fires".... the AM AAP finds it hard to reconcile this phrasing with: "Felling is limited to fire breaks". Likatonian forests are still well below the levels we had earlier this century. They still need protecting, and forests still need encouragement. AM AAP could support article 2 alone. In context of the other two, this bill must be opposed. |
| Date | 20:14:15, February 16, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | "Likatonian forests are still well below the levels we had earlier this century." True. They are also below their levels from the Neolithic Age, and for the same reasons. Increases in technology and population levels require access to natural resources; a society which does not grow, declines. |
| Date | 05:14:21, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | While the AM RLP assertion is true.... our quest for technology HAS been the factor that has stripped Likatonia of it's forests... that is not necessarily a GOOD thing. What we need, is not MORE resource gathering... not even MORE resources. What we NEED, is SMARTER resource gathering... and SMARTER use of resources. Allowing free and open access to an effectively irreplacable resource ('old growth' takes MULTIPLE hundreds of years to replace) is BAD stewardship by the nation, historically - always ends in destruction of that resource... and does not help or encourage SMART use of resources. |
| Date | 07:54:16, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Lumber Industry Reform |
| Message | PSS has reconsidered it's position on this and will support in it's entirety. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 192 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 230 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 78 |
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