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Bill: Abortion Law
Details
Submitted by[?]: Eixhiw Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2200
Description[?]:
| Abortion affects the moral of the country and removes the right to live from the child. Each child should have a chance to live. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Current: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Proposed: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:10:41, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Marx-Lenin Communist Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | Opposed |
| Date | 20:44:48, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | We will not support this proposal. |
| Date | 21:22:23, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Bastiat Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | Oppose. It's not a child that is destroyed. While in the mother's womb a fetus is dependent on the mother for survival and rights only pertain to physically independent entities in a social context, i.e interaction with other humans. The fetus does not exist in a social context, it does not interact with other humans and therefore does not have any rights to life . The fetus is an attribute of the mother, and only becomes an entity when born, and consequently has a right to life. If a woman cannot have a right to abortion she has no right to life and to use her body as she sees fit. |
| Date | 23:08:27, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | "........Each child should have a chance to live.") True, only one cannot speak of a child during that stage... |
| Date | 18:34:49, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Eixhiw Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | Rebuttal It is a child from the moment of conception. "While in the mother's womb a fetus is dependent on the mother for survival" This is also true after the baby is born. You can not leave a baby by its self and expect it to live, to get its own food. Heck Teenagers cant even do that. "The fetus does not exist in a social context" You must not be a father. At about four month into the pregnancy you can interact with the child. The baby will kick and respond to light, and sound. "If a woman cannot have a right to abortion she has no right to life and to use her body as she sees fit." A women has a right to use her body. She can decide to abstain from sex, or use protection. She keeps living, regardless of what happens to the baby. After the baby is born she can offer the baby up for adoption. There are many parents that are unable to have a child that would love to adopt if only they could. |
| Date | 18:44:09, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Eixhiw Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | Random quote: "If we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people to not kill each other? Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want." - Mother Teresa of Calcutta quotes |
| Date | 19:36:54, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Bastiat Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | The fetus is PHYSICALLY dependent on the mother for survival, and is an attribute of the mother until birth then becoming an entity. We believe rights only pertain to entities, not attributes. The mother's role is to act as a guardian for the child to teach it to use its rational faculty, ensure survival and therefore able to survive and prosper through independent action when it reaches the appropriate age. If a woman has a right to life ,SHE, should be able to abort as the fetus is an attribute of her, part of her life, an attribute like an arm or leg, and her life should not be subjected to the control of the state as abortion laws allow. A fetus no longer becomes a part of her life when it is born, it is PHYSICALLY independent of her, becoming an entity. No one, to my knowledge, has ever said it was right for a mother to kill her child, so I don't know who Mother Teresa was talking to, maybe some tribe. Why does the Eixhiw Party believe a fetus has rights? how? where do the rights come from? |
| Date | 20:11:24, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Modern Intellectual Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | We believe that a woman has a right to choose what happens to her body, and giving birth is a major event. If she feels that she cannot adequately support and look after the child she should have the right to have an abortion. This is not a country lead by religion, the views of nuns have no relevance other than that or any other person. |
| Date | 20:11:33, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Modern Intellectual Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | We believe that a woman has a right to choose what happens to her body, and giving birth is a major event. If she feels that she cannot adequately support and look after the child she should have the right to have an abortion. This is not a country lead by religion, the views of nuns have no relevance other than that of any other person. |
| Date | 20:12:06, February 17, 2006 CET | From | Modern Intellectual Party | To | Debating the Abortion Law |
| Message | Sorry I posted a correction there but it went out twice anyway, it should say at the end "other than that of any other person" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 126 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 624 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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