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Bill: Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali
Details
Submitted by[?]: DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2187
Description[?]:
| In light of the recent confusion over the appointment of a new Archbishop of Tukcity, we move to confirm and modernise the law once and for all. 1. The Archbishop of Tukcity is the head of the Church of Tukcity. 2. The Religious Council, made up of the most senoir members of the Church of Tukarali, is the governing body of the Church of Tukarali, headed by the Archbishop of Tukcity. 3. The Archbishop of Tukcity appoints his own successor, however this decision must be ratified by the Religious Council. If the Religious Council vetoes the Archbishop of Tukcitys decision, any member of the Religious Council can propose a new candidate. The Religious Council has the final decision in the succession of the Archbishop of Tukcity. 4. In the event of the death of the Archbishop of Tukcity, the Religious Council will take control of the Church of Tukarali until they appoint a new Archbishop of Tukcity. The Religious Council cannot retain control of the Church of Tukarali for no longer than a year before announcing a successor. 5. The Archbishop of Tukcity is a life-long post with no term limits. However, the Archbishop of Tukcity can resign at any point or can be forced to resign if a vote of no confidence is given by the Religious Council. 6. The Religious Council operates independently of the state, without interference under any circumstances, and the appointment of the Religious Council and the Archbishop of Tukcity will remain entirely independent of the government. The government still appoints ministers in the Church of Tukarali (as long as that law remains on the statute books). |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:33:42, February 16, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | this doesn't respect the current national law. |
| Date | 21:42:56, February 16, 2006 CET | From | DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | 'The current national law concerns the ministers of religion, not the Archbishop. This allows the church to decide among themselves. Correct me if I'm wrong, ONCP, but aren't you in favour of seperation of church and state? This is EXACTLY what this bills about. And personally, I'd like to see the current law regarding ministers removed from the statute book immediately.' - Archbishop Friar |
| Date | 21:43:44, February 16, 2006 CET | From | DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | 'Also, it is irrelevant what the current law is as this law would overwrite it. That's how passing legislation works, is it not?' |
| Date | 22:08:05, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | That's separation of Church and State? Let's see if I get this straight.. You're pushing to give the Church more power.. And you're the Archbisshop, the head of the Church of Tukcity, a life-long post with no term limits, who gets to appoint his own successor,.. Me thinks the new Archbisshop is a bit powerhungry ;-) |
| Date | 22:23:06, February 16, 2006 CET | From | DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | 'These rules were made at the establishment of the Church of Tukarali, GLDS, which you'd have known if you'd took the time to look them up. I am actually liberalising the rules a great deal by introducing the Religious Council which will essentially be able to kick me out at any point. The state should not appoint the head of the Church of Tukarali. This is seperation of Church and State. You do know what that means, don't you?' - Archbishop Friar |
| Date | 22:50:35, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Social-Conservative party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | We are afraid we must decline. As we see things, the Monarch is appointed by God, and thus is equal to the Archbishop whom is also appointed by God, and they should be able to co-exist and co-rule, and thus also able to remove eachothr. In short, we do not like that government looses all controll over the Church. |
| Date | 09:37:15, February 17, 2006 CET | From | DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Succession of the Head of the Church of Tukarali |
| Message | 'The government does not lose all control over the Church, it still appoints lesser ministers. We simply feel that as a church it is better if we can retain our indepence in choosing our leadership, as we feel that political rivalries can only damage the church in a leadership contest.' - Archbishop Friar |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 39 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 202 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 58 |
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