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Bill: P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Nuova Unione

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4234

Description[?]:

Gemma Furmani, FR whip

"We believe that there are certain things in the field of our law that deserve to be changed."

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:57:20, June 28, 2017 CET
FromAlleanza Radicale - NCD
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageHarun Al-Sahel, Deputy Leader of LP:

"LP support only the last article. In fact, we don't see why our citizens should be protected when they are guilty to have infringe the law of another country. We could make the same request for criminal which escaped abroad.
The second article is a great threat for the Democracy: this bill grant the protection of the MPs from persecution against their thought."

Date22:21:31, June 28, 2017 CET
FromNuova Unione
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageMarcantonio Vega, FR chairman

"It literally doesn't."

Date22:49:01, June 28, 2017 CET
FromPartito Nazionale Democratico
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageBeniamino Massa,

We agree to this bill.

Date01:25:23, June 29, 2017 CET
FromEguaglianza e Libertà
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageRaffaella Sarrento, Minister of Justice

"We support articles 1 and 2, but the last one seems unnecessary and could possibly end in a conflict of power between the two separate police organisations."

Date10:59:01, June 29, 2017 CET
FromPartito Radicale
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
Message"We support these proposals."

- Beata Bashara, SI Co-Leader

Date12:28:37, June 29, 2017 CET
FromAlleanza Radicale - NCD
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageHarun Al-Sahel:

"you all are questioning one of the most basic features of a mature democracy! The immunity reduces the possibility of pressing a member of the parliament to change his or her vote by fear of prosecution! We will oppose strongly to this madness! I don't want risk to be victime of judicial procedures for something I said into the parliament, or I don't want risk to be arrested due to an anonymous tip, maybe just before the vote for an important bill. Or maybe, I don't want that the Judiciary conduct political activities contrasting the MPs in their duties for political reasons.
This should be stopped! All this! Someone among my collegues of the Parliament have at least a degree in law and politics? Do you understand the idioty of your declaration? Go to a school and learn what is immunity and why is a foundamental part of a true Democracy!"

Date13:09:27, June 29, 2017 CET
FromNuova Unione
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageMarcantonio Vega, FR chairman

"You would have take part in illegal activities or say things that are against the law for the bill to be in action. We think that the current system is way less democratic; let's imagine this scenario: there are two MPs that broke the law. One is from the LP and the other from our party. In this situation, there is a chance that only your MP will face the repercussions of his act, because the coalition will vote against the removal of our MPs immunity. Is that justice?"

Date15:01:15, June 29, 2017 CET
FromAlleanza Radicale - NCD
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageHarun Al-Sahel:

"Well, so we prefer this option: "Members of the legislature are exempted from any civil or criminal liability for their speech or actions related with the performance of their duties during their term of office." In this way if they broke the law externally their specific duties of parliamentarians, they can be persecuted at well.
and remember that the parties rely on the support of the voters, any controversial decision should be considered very well.
And we continue to consider the risk of intimidation and manipulation more serious risk. "

Date15:28:53, June 29, 2017 CET
FromNuova Unione
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageMarcantonio Vega, FR chairman

"Very well, then. We will change the article."

Date15:36:55, June 29, 2017 CET
FromPartito Radicale
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
Message"We cannot support this bill now unless Article 1 is removed for Article 1 will almost certainly encourage corruption and, in fact, explicitly allows it."

- Beata Bashara, SI Co-Leader

Date15:51:32, June 29, 2017 CET
FromPartito Nazionale Democratico
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageBeniamino Massa,

This is much better.

Date16:07:43, June 29, 2017 CET
FromNuova Unione
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageGemma Furmani, FR chairman

"Who will support the article in the current form?"

Date19:03:52, June 29, 2017 CET
FromAlleanza Radicale - NCD
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
MessageHarun Al-Sahel, LP:

"to show some cooperation behavior, we will support this bill, projecting to modify in future the last article."

Date19:12:44, June 29, 2017 CET
FromPartito Radicale
ToDebating the P.d.l. 6/4233: Justice renewal act
Message"We would be willing to accept a compromise and support the status-quo of the current law in regard to Article 1. Thus, if Article 1 is dropped we'd back the other two proposals quite readily."

- Beata Bashara, SI Co-Leader

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Total Seats: 342

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Total Seats: 293

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