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Bill: Ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners

Details

Submitted by[?]: RSDP - Democratic Front

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2189

Description[?]:

This bill asks for the ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:26:56, February 19, 2006 CET
From Freedom Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners
MessageReasons to vote against this treaty

1. Written by RSDP ;)

2. "2. There shall be no discrimination on the grounds of race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status."

or other status. thus we cannot discriminate against psychotic murderers by putting them in secure cells, solitary confinement etc

"5. Except for those limitations that are demonstrably necessitated by the fact of incarceration, all prisoners shall retain the human rights and fundamental freedoms set out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and, where the State concerned is a party, such other rights as are set out in other covenants."

a) we have not signed up to the UDHR b) that document is a pile of crap

"7. Efforts addressed to the abolition of solitary confinement as a punishment, or to the restriction of its use, should be undertaken and encouraged."

So psychotic murderers who like to kill their cellmates and injure them cannot be put in solitary confinement?

"9. Prisoners shall have access to the health services available in the country without discrimination on the grounds of their legal situation."

They are locked up... in you know.. this thing called... PRISON!

Date21:57:31, February 19, 2006 CET
FromLibertarian Alcoholic Party II
ToDebating the Ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners
Message"1. All prisoners shall be treated with the respect due to their inherent dignity and value as human beings."

Uh, walking the streets is part of inherent human dignity. Prisoners clearly aren't treated like law-abiding citizens for very good reasons.

Date17:31:37, February 20, 2006 CET
From RSDP - Democratic Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners
MessageWhy do you need to take everything out of context? If you real the whole treaty you'll find that it covers all concerns adequately and that there are no loopholes in it.

Date21:19:21, February 20, 2006 CET
From Freedom Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Basic Principles for the Treatment of Prisoners
MessageIt contradicts itself, not a good quality in a treaty

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 94

no
      

Total Seats: 432

abstain
  

Total Seats: 73


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