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Bill: Law on Security Council Support
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosian-Konservative Allianz
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4248
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nomination for Security Council Seat B. (For more information, see )
http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8453http
Old value:: Istalia
Current: Abstain
Proposed: Abstain
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Nomination for Security Council Seat C. (For more information, see )
http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8453http
Old value:: Yingdala
Current: Abstain
Proposed: Abstain
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:39:11, July 25, 2017 CET | From |  Sozialdemokratische Arbeitsfront (SDA) | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | We think we should keep Indrala as a nominee |
| Date | 20:17:06, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Your votes clearly show that none of you have paid any attention to work affairs. The switch from Istalia to Vanuku was due to the collapse of Vanuku, Vanuku has now resurged and has been one of the oldest allies of the Dorvish state, for those who don't know or didn't care to read, a good portion of Vanuku was once a Dorvish colony...therefore we would support those who would've naturally supported us. Second, Indrala has been dead for the better part of 20-30 years. Why would we support a nation that cannot project power anymore and is in sharp decline economically and militarily. Rildanor is resurgent and we have allies there that are supportive of our mission an Dorvik's place in the international order. |
| Date | 20:30:08, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: world* not work...RIP spelling. |
| Date | 20:40:33, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: 'once' being key in your Vanuku assessment. Most of the players today weren't around in the colonial era which you're so intent on reverting back to. |
| Date | 20:48:32, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: You're smoking crack apparently. Vanuku, the players who were there left the game temporarily, they've since returned and start to RP again, aka a current, in-game nation is far more powerful than Indrala currently is. No one is attempting to revert to the "Colonial Era" or whatever the hell you're talking about because it's apparent you don't know what you're talking about. |
| Date | 20:50:15, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Just because you've been here a long time doesn't mean you known everything. I don't appreciate the hostility, either. Your buddies in other nations don't make those nations some kind of holy grail we must be allies with. |
| Date | 20:52:30, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: No, you're right I don't know everything. I do know however, far more than you do regarding the geopolitical and international structure of affairs in regards to Security Council support. That's for sure. No, what they do however, is make those nations potential interactions for RP. |
| Date | 20:55:00, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Maybe if you stopped secluding yourself and doing everything on your own, I'd be able to do more. And it's all YOUR RP. The RP you refuse to let me in on and go off and do yourself despite not being the foreign ministry. |
| Date | 20:57:26, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Well, I'm going to say this publicly so you can't claim anything: 1) The arms deal with Kazulia, you were notified and it wasn't anything that you really needed to be involved it. It was simply a news post that said hey, we're doing an arms deal. You were notified and approved. 2) The Northern Council, I reached out, I asked and you approved. You could've said no. 3) I've made every attempt to invite people into the RP, as I've done numerous times. Instead of promoting RP or our Nationmaster actually doing something, numerous RP attempts have been stalled and halted by both of you. |
| Date | 21:00:48, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: 1) I'm the foreign minister it is something to involve me. 2) You forced me to. You would've done it anyway. 3) Utter BS. And maybe everyone should know about your idea of secretly getting rid of our NM without his consent. And please, tell me what I've stalled. |
| Date | 21:02:05, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: 1) I messaged you, where did you respond you wanted to be involved? Please. 2) I literally asked, you could've said no. 3) Yeah, it isn't a secret. Mostly everyone here know and I've involved Moderation due to his failure as a Nationmaster. |
| Date | 21:05:13, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Why are you suddenly going off on me? I let you do what you wanted. Why am I the bad guy? I should've said no to your asinine ideas. Dorvik isn't 'your nation' to puppeteer. |
| Date | 21:07:30, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: I'm finished with speaking with you, I'm notifying Moderation about my stance on the Nationmaster and I'll let them handle that issue. It's apparent that you're far more willing to be openly hostile and attack first, as apparent in PMs. I apologize to everyone here that the topic go so off-topic. |
| Date | 21:10:50, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: That's a shame. All I wanted was for you to actually involve me in RP, but you decided to viciously attack me. |
| Date | 21:13:10, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: Nah, it's precisely what happened last time. I approached you about something, you instead proceeded to claim I was trying to control you, the nation, this isn't 2010, yada yada. It's very hostile and quite frankly very off-putting. I really hope that someday we can cooperate and you can speak to me like a respectable player when I approach you with ideas. For those interested in discussing this, please PM me. This is not the place to do it. Thanks. |
| Date | 21:31:49, July 25, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Law on Security Council Support |
| Message | OOC: On reconsidering, we will support his and accept what you've said. It seems to fit together. I was just very angry I felt you discluded me from RP, and that made me lash out. Sorry. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 393 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 206 |
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