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Bill: God is Good Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2190
Description[?]:
| Because God is Good. We hope that the folowing measures, aimed at increasing personel freedoms in Kazulia shall pass. As you can see, this bill is not pro-religion in concept, it just removes the states current attack on religion from the public agenda. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religious organizations are not permitted to actively promote themselves or advertise, however evangelism is permitted by individuals.
Current: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Current: It is not permitted to wear religious clothing or religious symbols in public buildings.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:38:22, February 19, 2006 CET | From |  Northern Light | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Why the religious member shall not pay any taxes and our hard-working wokers class has to? We are against such privilege for some kind of jibba-jabba illusionists. |
| Date | 23:40:26, February 19, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Members of religions will pay taxes, where in this bill does it say that members of religions won't pay taxes? |
| Date | 23:44:27, February 19, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Recognized religions are not taxed. |
| Date | 23:47:50, February 19, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Yes, the religions are not taxed, but the members are still taxed. |
| Date | 23:51:13, February 19, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | You are kidding? Is like say: "yeah, employers are taxed, but companies no". |
| Date | 23:53:42, February 19, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | That analogy is wrong, someone who goes to a church or mosque does not work for the church or mosque, they are not paid by the church etc etc you cannot compare a religion to a company |
| Date | 23:58:57, February 19, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | You are saying that churches should not be taxed because the fidels are taxed. This is not right: then I must not pay taxes on share profits, since I already pay taxes. |
| Date | 00:01:12, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | whoa, fidels? Churches are not profit making organisations, to suggest otherwise is idiotic, as to your last point, we have no idea what you are on about, once again, a church and a company are not the same. |
| Date | 00:18:45, February 20, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | IF they are entirely not profit, than they are not taxed now: charitable donations are not taxed. |
| Date | 00:24:49, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Then if they are entirely non-profit, it makes sense to scrap laws that tax religious organisations, as they are wasteful of time. |
| Date | 00:29:14, February 20, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Then, they are profit of non-profit? |
| Date | 00:30:26, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Obviously, they are non-profit, thus any unnecessary legislation can be removed. |
| Date | 00:32:38, February 20, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | The current law ensure that they remain non-profit, then. In this way we can assure that so-called newage religions not stole moneys from their fidels |
| Date | 00:34:29, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Thats why we have allowed only 'recognised' religions, so as to prevent companies from claiming to be 'religions' |
| Date | 00:48:51, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Klassiskt Liberala Partiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | We support the bill |
| Date | 12:28:16, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Northern Light | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | We can have lots of unrecognized church in our nations, check our laws.. And a church needs money like any other industry |
| Date | 18:50:21, February 20, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Unrecognised Churches are a problem, for example the SV or NL could declare itself a religion and receive a tax free status, that would be wrong, thus recognised churches. A Church needs money, but it doesn't need profits, you do know of the difference between money and profits? |
| Date | 18:58:06, February 20, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | Profit: The return received on a business undertaking after all operating expenses have been met. Non-profit: pertaining to an organization or company established for charitable, educational, or humanitarian purposes and not for making money Then, the actual law makes what you want, SV. |
| Date | 12:03:24, February 21, 2006 CET | From | Northern Light | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | *Supporters of NL are setting up stands for our new Reason Church* |
| Date | 14:44:43, February 21, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the God is Good Bill |
| Message | No it doesn't because there may very well be money left over at the end of the year, Churches may very well save money for use in disasters, yet you would propose a tax on that money, that is wrong. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 73 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 116 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 12 |
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