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Bill: P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partito Nazionale Democratico
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4257
Description[?]:
| Franco Ricollo, AI Leader, In light of the upcoming election, we want to propose these reforms to respect the values represented by our ancestors. Thank you. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning adoption.
Old value:: Adoption is regulated by the government. Applicants can adopt after a routine check-up.
Current: Adoption is regulated by the government. Applicants can adopt after a routine check-up.
Proposed: Adoption is regulated by private, recognised organisations.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Only couples may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Forced marriages.
Old value:: Forced marriages are illegal.
Current: Forced marriages are illegal.
Proposed: Forced marriages are legal and binding.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Current: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Proposed: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Freedom of information law.
Old value:: Classified files are released after a set period of time provided doing so is not deemed to be against the public interest.
Current: Classified files are released after a set period of time provided doing so is not deemed to endanger national security.
Proposed: Classified files are released after a set period of time.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the ability to change the legal definition of one's gender
Old value:: The government allows the individual to decide on gender identity.
Current: The government allows the individual to decide on gender identity.
Proposed: Individuals are not allowed to change their legal gender identity.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Policy on incest.
Old value:: Incestuous acts are legal, but incestuous marriages are not legally recognised.
Current: Incestuous acts are illegal.
Proposed: Incestuous acts are illegal, but only actively prosecuted if pregnancy results.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Current: Public nudity is illegal and prosecuted as a civil offence.
Proposed: Public nudity is illegal, but private nudist colonies and beaches are permitted.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning parental qualifications.
Old value:: The government does not hold qualifications for new parents.
Current: Parental qualifications are left to local governments.
Proposed: The government requires a test for would-be parents, if parents circumvent the test they are allowed to keep the children, but are watched for incompentence.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: There are no laws regarding obscene public acts.
Current: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Proposed: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Current: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Proposed: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:32:16, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | OOC: I am sorry for such a long bill |
| Date | 19:56:13, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | OOC: why do you need to apologize? Any player can create whatever bills he want and with all the article he want. The only limits are the law about the number of proposals which can be presented. |
| Date | 21:01:01, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Aristiotele Di Vito, FR Deputy Leader Hahaha... no. I akways thought that conservatism is based on opposing change and preserving the status quo, rather than openly fighting personal freedom and liberty. |
| Date | 21:19:01, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Niccolo Zito, Leader of PCI We agree with Fronte Radicale. This bill should have been called the P.d.l 4/4256 Reactionary Act, a far more fitting name for a bill that would return us to the dark ages. You might as well have added a proposal to establish a monarchy, it really wouldn't look out of place in the slightest. |
| Date | 21:27:24, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Franco Ricollo, AI Leader, Why would you say such things? Only because we are fighting for the right of every child to have a mother and father? Only because we do not want nudists having Sex on the streets? Only because we fight for gun rights and for openness in our judicial system by releasing classified files? We are disappointed by your statements as we try to lead Istalia to a new era of morality and prosperity. |
| Date | 21:30:02, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Aristotele Di Vito, FR Deputy Leader Also, if I may ask, what is the base of these changes? Tell me please, how would a homosexual couple that adopts a child downgrade your life? Or the lives of your voters, in this case? This would just be a sign of love and a chance for that child. |
| Date | 21:35:06, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Aristotele Di Vito, FR Deputy Leader Well, we do understand your efforts regarding public intercourse, as it possibly has a negative impact on our tourism. Also, if I may, I want to note that one of our friends, the minister of Justice, Octavio, was raised by two women, two loving mothers. And look where he's now. May I ask you about how this bill will affect our prosperity? |
| Date | 21:48:43, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Franco Ricollo, AI Leader, I am sincerely happy for Octavio and I want such cases to prove us wrong, yet I can only imagine the troubling school life this individual must have had, being stared at when he gets picked up by two mothers, instead of mom and dad. This puts the child at an unnecessary disadvantage from the start, as for a healthy childhood, a mom and dad is always preferable. Furthermore, the voters are concerned with family values, which is commonly seen in our society as the unity between two individuals, able to have children, hence a man and woman, everything else seems steering away from the natural connection and common desire to reproduce, which is deeply engraved in our DNA. Before Homosexual couples can reproduce, we will maintain our position. Also we would like to make you aware that this is not a homophobic bill, as we equally want to refuse adoption to singles, for the same exact reasons. Thank you |
| Date | 23:07:00, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Malik Astori, Leader of LP: "Why after decades and decades and decades of children rised by homosexual couple didn't we see such degradations? We didn't see the decadence of an entire society. We see a nation of success and great opportunity, a land od opportunity, which inspires millions of people and which is see like a land of freedom. Istalia became great also for this. But a part the retoric, the major international studies show clearly that for a good developement of a children the most important thing is a stable family, with disgnitous life of style, reach of love and protection. And there is not a good love and a bad love, there is only people which love and want take care of their children. This is not an homophobic bill? You are declaring that the homosexuals are not able to give the same love to their children. It is heavily homophobic." |
| Date | 23:32:30, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Franco Ricollo, AI Leader, Homosexuals can't and singles can't either, be it straight, gay or whatever. You need a mother and a father. Both genders which fulfil their respective roals. Two mothers or two fathers or one mother or one father can never replace the biologically standard pairing of both partners, we fight so that our children's first words can be mom AND dad. |
| Date | 16:33:18, August 16, 2017 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Niccolo Zito, PCI The fact that this bill passed is a joke. Where were you Nuova Socialdemocrazia? |
| Date | 00:53:11, August 17, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | We enter a new era! |
| Date | 19:09:37, August 17, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Aristotele Do Vito, FR interim leader Yes, a new era of ultraconservatism and homophobia. |
| Date | 21:16:46, August 18, 2017 CET | From | PRO - Cittadini Progressisti | To | Debating the P.d.l 4/4256 Conservative Act |
| Message | Former Prime Minister Fatima el-Nouri, by a tweet: Shame on you, Ricollo, shame on you and your entire party. It is to our deepest regret that this violation of human rights was passed by absence of important parties. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 178 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 163 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 294 |
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