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Bill: Home Sanctuary Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Proletariat Revolution Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2064

Description[?]:

This act will ensure that all citizens of Likaton are given and guaranteed the right to their own personal sanctuary. This sanctuary is their house, apartment, etc.

Every citizen is protected within the limits of this bill from unreasonable search and seizure. Their personal property is theirs and shall not be seized by the police.

The personal lives of the citizens, until they violate any legislated law or court ruling, shall not be encrouched upon by officers of the law abusing their power. All citizens have the right to go about their business without being harassed.

The government and the police also have no place in the bedrooms of Likaton. What goes on in their is between the consenting citizens. The government and police have no business intervening in one's personal bedroom for any reason, except one that is justified with a court order.

The phone lines, email and other means of personal communication are to remain private. They are not the state's business.

The only time that this doesn't apply is to business and/or the police have obtained the necessary court permission to carry out the seizure of evidence.

Lastly, the personal space of each citizen shall only be encrouched upon when they have broken the law. Merely being bystanders is not grounds enough for any violation.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date04:47:57, June 02, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageWe do not endorse the social stance, the rest is fine by us

Date06:48:52, June 02, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageWhat social stance? This is extremely liberatarian.

Date07:52:39, June 02, 2005 CET
FromRight Wing Liberals Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageI oppose the Car reference.
If one was pulled over for speeding the car should be allowed to be searched if the suspect has ndeed been caught over the limit.

Date15:42:35, June 02, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageHmn... but if there is nothing VISIBLE to warrant a search, how it that legal? It would then make the search arbitrary.

Date23:28:09, June 02, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageOf course we will support. there are so many laws It is easy to assume are already in place because they are obvious... well done for spotting that there is actually nothing to say so.

Date05:31:47, June 03, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageRWL's statement about the car may have a point.

How does everyone else feel about it? Should it be changed to be less libratarian? Or...

Date08:32:37, June 03, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageNo unwarranted search and seizure is prohibited..and we will endorse that stand.

However, we will not tolerate the provision that government must not interfere in the social sphere. Some things lead to the degenarion of society and must be stopped.

Date13:05:07, June 03, 2005 CET
FromRight Wing Liberals Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageI could let the Search thing pass but it isnt a terrible idea.

Date16:26:13, June 03, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageHow would letting two adults decide on their own sexual life hurt the so-called moral fibre of the nation? And the social elements are those which are personal. The whole idea is to respect personal space.

Date19:41:28, June 03, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageI have removed the car reference.

Date03:10:39, June 04, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageSsociety has the duty the uphold the rights of every citizen including those in a mother's womb. We cannot allow murder and therfore interfere in the "personal space" that gives parents an excuse to kill their children.

Liberal regulations on the media make it harder for parents to raise their children up with good values, and can promote addiction ot watching tv that is not healthy for society or the individual.

I could go on and on...but I think you already got the point. Remove this "privacy" provision and we will endorse this slate

Date06:17:36, June 04, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageParents don't have to place their offspring in front of that glass teat. They can try actually parenting instead of using the television to compensate for their incompetance.

Date06:23:24, June 04, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageAlso, PP, if you actually take the time to read, you'll note that I mention that the rights are taken away IF there is a law broken. And, we already allow abortion.

Date04:31:25, June 05, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageSociety should have the right to decide if something is going and legislate on it...even if no laws are broken.

Making "personal space" a priority over socially responsible behaviour only ever results in degeneracy.

Date12:04:42, June 05, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageHow I interpreted it was that if there was not law to prevent something then the police could not interfere unless it went against 'common taste and decency'. this is hardly saying much at all, and need not be seen as a libertarian social policy. If you want to prevent any of the things cited above from happening, introduce laws to prohibit them.

Date12:05:29, June 05, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
Messageoops. I meant common decency and taste, as worded above.

Date15:49:12, June 05, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageOk, I see what you meam, LPE. I changed it very slightly so that it reads "until they violate any legislated law or court ruling"

Date06:37:37, June 06, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageOkay we are ready to provide cautious support. This is on the understanding that the legislature can always make laws on certain subjects that may affect personal freedom.

We will never seek to ban homosexuality, or variant sexual behaviour. However we will try to influence their behaviour.


Date23:48:05, June 06, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageIn other words, prevent rape and child molestation.

Date14:08:59, June 07, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
Message"Variant" behaviour should not be treated any different than "normal" behaviour. Only illegal sexual activities in both areas should be legislated against.

Date14:30:34, June 07, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageCan we vote on this?

Date05:06:26, June 08, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Home Sanctuary Act
MessageLeave the decision on variant behaviour to another bill

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Voting

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Total Seats: 193

no

    Total Seats: 0

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