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Bill: We are NOT a Welfare State 4261
Details
Submitted by[?]: Baltusian Green Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4263
Description[?]:
| Members of Congress, We need to show our working citizens that their money is not wasted on slackers, hence we need this bill. Thank you, Eva White Minister of Internal Affairs |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Old value:: The government runs all homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Current: The government runs all homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Proposed: There are government-run shelters, but these coexist with privately run shelters.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: There is a compulsory private pension system.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:51:21, August 24, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | Members of Congress, Did the minister of foreign affairs just imply that poor people are slackers? Penny Sargent Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia |
| Date | 01:00:34, August 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian Green Alliance | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | Congressperson Sargent, Firstly, I am the minister of Internal Affairs, secondly no not poor people, but people which are clearly able to work and just live off the welfare system, which hard working people, even poor people, fund with their taxes. Eva White Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 01:08:09, August 24, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | Secretary White, This doesn't only affect those people. Penny Sargent Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia OOC: Sorry, I mean Internal affairs |
| Date | 01:42:23, August 24, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Syndicalists | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | You sicko you are destroying our country poverty levels are at an all time high |
| Date | 19:17:40, August 26, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | I think that the people of Baltusia will be thoroughly disappointed to hear the RAC making baseless claims based on no facts whatsoever. Calling the authors of this bill a 'Sicko' is only contributing to the violence seen by the left from many many years. |
| Date | 00:09:41, August 27, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Syndicalists | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | The Violebce is you fault for destroying the lower classses |
| Date | 20:50:17, August 27, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian Green Alliance | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | We have done more for the lower classes than you. |
| Date | 00:11:28, August 28, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the We are NOT a Welfare State 4261 |
| Message | Members of Congress, The Green Alliance's great work to help the lower classes was nowhere more on show than in these bills: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=535104 http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=534946 Penny Sargent Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 364 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 236 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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