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Bill: Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189

Details

Submitted by[?]: Malivianese Militarist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2191

Description[?]:

It is agreed by the Assembly and so ordered that:

1. Appeals will be reviewed by higher courts.
2. Able bodied prisoners must work during the day without wage.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date12:53:53, February 22, 2006 CET
FromSocial Democrat League
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageArticle 1: Acceptable, keeps the power away from one single person, or office (Minister of Justice).
Article 2: Ridiculous, we don't want to make our prisons labour camps.

Date14:21:11, February 22, 2006 CET
FromMeritocratic Progressive Union
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageArticle 1: Acceptable.
Article 2: Agreed with the SDP. This is monstrous!

Date22:28:51, February 22, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageWoah, we think there was a misunderstanding with Article 2.

Our reasoning was that we don't want tax payer's money to go to people who have committed crimes which will probably keep funding crimes on the outside.

Also notice 'able-bodied' prisoners meaning if we work them to death, their work will not go towards the good of the Federation and whoever worked them to death will probably be fired for committing murder, even if in the 2nd Degree.

In no way are we proposing work camps or any of the such (even we have moral principles that prisoners shouldn't be shot on sight just for moderate crimes) however, their time in prison shouldn't be an opportunity to make money to gamble or fund their former enterprises.

It is also a drain on the tax payers!

Date22:29:28, February 22, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageAnother note: The prisoners will be doing the same kind of work before, just without a wage. We can stipulate to that effect if desired.

Date03:06:05, February 24, 2006 CET
FromMalivia Democratic Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
Message#1 is great #2 is ridiculous

Date03:13:45, February 24, 2006 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
Message1) a great law
2) troubles us for two reasons. The first is that they are forced to work, and we do not feel anyone should be forced into labour.
the second reason is once you have this labour force working for free, they can steal jobs from law abiding citizens. (OOC: ever see Shawshank Redemption) Thus the prison force will be doing jobs that were performed by wage earners.

Date03:14:31, February 24, 2006 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageWe will support for the first article, but will work on changing or modifying the second.

Date18:00:51, February 24, 2006 CET
FromFree Progress Alliance
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageUnwaged work is essentially slavery. We will support the bill for article 1 and shall work to modify the second provision.

Date21:18:09, February 24, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Justice Reform Act (JRA) of 2189
MessageWe were willing to compromise to another suitable alternative during debate, however there simply was nothing offered besides "this is rediculous etc."

We stress the importance of debate for this reason here so that the best bills become laws.

Nonetheless, we thank the Protectorates and FPA for their yes votes.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 137

no
    

Total Seats: 142

abstain
 

Total Seats: 22


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