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Bill: Illegal Aliens Bill 4272
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4273
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government ignores illegal aliens.
Current: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Proposed: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:00:59, September 15, 2017 CET | From | Plaid Ffederaliaeth a Rhyddid | To | Debating the Illegal Aliens Bill 4272 |
| Message | This law has little effect as our government effectively lets anyone reside here. But it will hopefully be enforceable in the future. |
| Date | 22:59:12, September 15, 2017 CET | From | Parti Libertaraidd Newydd (PLN/NLP) | To | Debating the Illegal Aliens Bill 4272 |
| Message | The PLN/NLP will have to vote against this bill. Whilst we would support expelling illegal aliens, actively searching for them expends too many resources and taxpayers money. Undoubtedly, should we find them, they should be deported, but most want a quiet life, and actively contribute to the economy - even if it is only small paying jobs. Amend this bill and we will support. Llachu Greenway PLN/NLP Leader |
| Date | 23:55:30, September 15, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol) | To | Debating the Illegal Aliens Bill 4272 |
| Message | We disagree with the argument made by the PLN/NLP concerning the fiscal impact of illegal aliens. They claim they contribute to tha economy by doing small paying jobs, but this means they will not be paying much or any tax. We think the resources spent searching for illegal aliens will be worth it as we believe the fiscal impact of illegal aliens to the economy is negative. Gerald Wehnert President of Aloria |
| Date | 13:47:25, September 16, 2017 CET | From | Parti Libertaraidd Newydd (PLN/NLP) | To | Debating the Illegal Aliens Bill 4272 |
| Message | Mr. President, I understand your concern about the lack of tax paid by these people, we too believe that this is a problem and that the government should explore ways of dealing with this. However, our argument was that their presence increases the productivity of the economy, as more people are buying services from them. Whilst this may not help out the government as they cannot tax this income (which by the way most likely falls under 3500 Aloriks), it will boost the informal economy, which provides a poorer people with a way to make money. Thus, our argument is that, whilst it has a negative impact on the fiscality of government, the positive impact that it provides to local communities in encouraging buying and selling is positive. It boosts economic productivity on a local level - which is where economic reform ought to be made. Again, I would like to reiterate that were this bill amended, we would support it. Indeed, we hope that an amended bill is brought to this Senate as we believe that it is necessary to take action. We also agree with what the AFP said, and believe that part of legislation should be altered as well. Llachu Greenway PLN/NLP Leader Internal Affairs Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 196 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 344 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 5 |
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