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Bill: Civic liberties IV: Armed Forces Reform, 4277
Details
Submitted by[?]: Auguri de Curia Inserenus
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4277
Description[?]:
| Senators, The government is seeking to privatize the military and the police, to achieve better accountability, cost-effectiveness and a more independent military caste. Furthermore - the so called 'Republican Guard', once a strong arm of tyranny shall be disbanded. This government will let every Pontesian citizen and organization carry a gun, and will entrust traditional Pagan-oriented movements such as the Crimson Crusade and the Claws and Paws movement to take care for our security. Additionally, 10,2 m. PON shall be diverted to the re-establishment of the Pontesian cavalry, a proud an neccesary tradition among our mountainous peoples. Augusta Maxima, Consul |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to hold positions of command.
Current: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Proposed: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National military policy.
Old value:: The nation retains a full time, professional army, navy and air force.
Current: The nation retains a full time, professional army, navy and air force.
Proposed: The government subcontracts semi-military control to private groups.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Appointment of military officers
Old value:: The Ministry of Defense is authorized to appoint military officers.
Current: The Ministry of Defense is authorized to appoint military officers.
Proposed: Individual units elect their officers.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Current: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Surrendering enemy combatants are summarily executed.
Current: Prisoners of war are enslaved.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the usage of drones and UAV's
Old value:: The government approves of the usage of armed drones and UAVs for reconnaissance and military operations.
Current: The government approves of the usage of armed drones and UAVs for reconnaissance and military operations.
Proposed: The government has no official policy on the use of drones and UAVs.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: It is a criminal offence to refuse to perform military service.
Current: It is a criminal offence to refuse to perform military service.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Current: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Proposed: The government competitively subcontracts security management to private security firms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:33:40, September 24, 2017 CET | From |  Pontesyan Azgaynakan Zhoghovrdakan Kusak | To | Debating the Civic liberties IV: Armed Forces Reform, 4277 |
| Message | This lunacy will result in the total bastardization of the army. Cavalry?! Are we going back to medieval times? Disbanding the Republican Guard is a cowardly act and this shows that the government is afraid of the armed wing of the NUP. Further attacks on the NUP will be met with violence. Erik Papazian President of the NUP |
| Date | 17:23:15, September 24, 2017 CET | From | Auguri de Curia Inserenus | To | Debating the Civic liberties IV: Armed Forces Reform, 4277 |
| Message | Senators, The reestablishment of the knightly Pontesian cavalry is vital for the defence of the homeland. Mountainous areas are highly ill-suited for tanks or cars. Also, they represent a heroic archetype for tribal men that a soulless mechanical structure cannot. Quintus Trebatius Gaius, Magister of Defence |
| Date | 19:26:27, September 24, 2017 CET | From | Pontesyan Azgaynakan Zhoghovrdakan Kusak | To | Debating the Civic liberties IV: Armed Forces Reform, 4277 |
| Message | Perhaps you Jelbics have been reading too much ancient history, but Cavalry is obsolete. Your pseudo-medieval ways are highly illogical. Magar Papazian Chariman of the NUP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 258 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 242 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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