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Bill: P.d.l 18/4286 The end justifies the means
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partito Nazionale Democratico
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4286
Description[?]:
Vilfredo Buccheri, PNP Speaker of Justice, Once again, sometimes we have to use drastic methods to achieve our aims. The torture, and more often than not the threat of torture can save hundreds of lives. At the end of the day, it is only our enemy who will suffer. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:50:06, October 12, 2017 CET | From | Lega Giusnaturalistica | To | Debating the P.d.l 18/4286 The end justifies the means |
Message | Dagoberto Vigilante, Leader of C.C. "We can never afford to treat human beings as means - which is precisely what this bill would do. The C.C. rejects this backwards notion from the P.N.P., as we believe in a 'kingdom of ends,' where every human being is treated with dignity within the confines of a capitalist system." |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 94 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 261 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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Random quote: "Oh, judge, your damn laws: the good people don't need them and the bad people don't follow them so what good are they?" - Ammon Hennacy |