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Bill: Aid
Details
Submitted by[?]: LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2193
Description[?]:
| Increasing government aid. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Current: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: All housing is private but rent is subsidised for low-income households.
Current: The state contracts with private companies to provide public housing.
Proposed: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:43:59, February 24, 2006 CET | From | Beluzian Defense and Federalist Party | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | This is communist. I do not support it. |
| Date | 21:04:49, February 24, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | I you wish to label people please do so correctly. |
| Date | 21:12:57, February 24, 2006 CET | From | Beluzian Defense and Federalist Party | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Sorry, let me rephrase that: This bill puts us on a dangerous course to becoming a more socialist/communist state. And I have previously stated before, you are not a communist. But some of your ideas and legislation advances their agenda. |
| Date | 23:44:34, February 24, 2006 CET | From | Moderate Beluzians | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | 1) I think moderate aid stands as sufficent. We currently maintain many aid programs internally and this change would weaken those. 2) I shutter to think about giving the state control over legal representation. Public defenders hardly provide steller defenses. (Mainly because they manage many trials at once.) 3) This removes the "minimum" adjective. It will only promote laziness. 5) No, forced labor to produce for the society they victimized stands as a positive form of punishment. 6) This removes precious equity from low income families. |
| Date | 02:10:21, February 25, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | TASP is the party of dirty longhaired sandal-wearing commie freaks, so filthy as to require a good washing with a firehose before they are sanitary enough for a proper thrashing~! Club a commie for Christ~!!!!!!!! |
| Date | 02:12:44, February 25, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | ooc: I thought you said you were going to keep the bills areasonable size, and on a singular topic? Prison labor has nothing to do w foriegn aid, nor does free housing or minimum income benefits |
| Date | 05:23:03, February 25, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | IT"S ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT AID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Date | 14:31:55, February 25, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Right, but in all different directions |
| Date | 15:00:38, February 26, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Exactly, what better way to over extend the government. |
| Date | 17:08:39, February 26, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Boo! You sound like George W. Bush! |
| Date | 17:11:12, February 26, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | "Lets dump a trillion into an Iraqi civil war, a few billion into a corrupt cesspit of hoodlems hit by a hurricane, and several millions into aids drugs for slutty africans... what, we don't have enough $? Thats o.k., thats what the national debt is for, the grandkids can pay for it after I'm dead!" |
| Date | 00:32:43, February 27, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | "Lets dump a trillion into an Iraqi civil war, a few billion into a corrupt cesspit of hoodlems hit by a hurricane, and several millions into aids drugs for slutty africans... what, we don't have enough $? Thats o.k., thats what the national debt is for, the grandkids can pay for it after I'm dead!" |
| Date | 05:41:14, February 27, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Except unlike him I am not in denial about the cost of these measures. |
| Date | 12:52:38, February 27, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Aid |
| Message | Are you familiar with the John Birch society? I've heard they advocate putting america so far into debt that it can't help but scrap programs like social security and medicare... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 25 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 46 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 29 |
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