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Bill: Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288
Details
Submitted by[?]: Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4288
Description[?]:
| Members of Congress, If the government is not in favour of abortions then their congresspeople should not get abortions however they should not try to stop the rest of us from doing it. Dr. John Ashword Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Services |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:24:49, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian National Party (BNP) | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | "If the government is not in favour of murder then their congresspeople should not commit murder however they should not try to stop the rest of us from doing it." We support the right to access to abortion, however the argument you have given is flawed. F. Adams Leader of the RCP |
| Date | 21:20:58, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | Leader Adams, The difference is that abortion as an action only affects the individual choosing to get it while murder does not. Dr. John Ashword Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Services |
| Date | 21:31:46, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Centrist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | “Members of Congress, Our party will abstain due to the constitutional problem with this bill as per article 2 of the declaration of rights.” -Mezcal B Princeton CPB Senator |
| Date | 21:32:01, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Centrist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | *1 |
| Date | 22:30:32, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian National Party (BNP) | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | Dr. Ashword, It would be in your opinion that it only affects the individual choosing. I must then assume you don't consider the unborn fetus a life. Many people do consider it a life, making it murder to dispose of it. That is simply the argument we are trying to make. F. Adams Leader of the RCP |
| Date | 18:53:53, October 17, 2017 CET | From | Free People's Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | We would like to put emphasis on the sign off. Dr. John Ashword declared himself as the "shadow secretary of state for health and social services." This enrages us, as he is disregarding the democratic vote, wherein the congress voted no on the existence of a shadow government, and refers to himself as part of the shadow government. We would like Dr. John Ashword to apologize for his actions. Jared Chandler Free People's Libertarian Party, the party for the people. |
| Date | 21:29:09, October 17, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Abortion Legalisation Bill 4288 |
| Message | As per the 'Structure of Democracy Act' (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=532665), there is to be a shadow cabinet which does not require congressional approval to pass |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 177 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 89 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 334 |
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