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Bill: True Path of Hosianism Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grüne Demokratische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4289
Description[?]:
| Pragmatismus Platform |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a minor offense.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:51:35, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Religion is just a distraction from the problems of capitalism, and part of the means through which the ruling class seek to exert their control over the masses. Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 14:29:30, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | It is interesting, then, that Hosianism predates capitalism. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 17:45:01, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | This is exactly the problem that Drumpf and Lorenz warned us of: the CotS are attempting to subjugate and govern the nation. We cannot stand by so long as this continues. We henceforth declare that until the Pragmatismus withdraw or reduce their connections with the CotS we will no longer work with them. Amadeus Schmidt RP Leader |
| Date | 18:29:50, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | It's also interesting that this would make Hosianism generally Dorvik's religion, not CotS in particular. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 22:15:36, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | This is clearly a step towards the CotS's main goal. Or should I say your party's main goal? Amadeus Schmidt RP Leader |
| Date | 23:26:29, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Ms. Kirchen, Hosianism originated under the economic and social system known as feudalism, which later evolved into what we know today as capitalism. Nevertheless, the fact remains that - just as under feudalism - religion is a tool used by the ruling elite to pacify the masses and reduce their sense of class consciousness. Religion, like capitalism, will perish in the end. We estimate the complete Terra-wide extinction of Hosianism as a religious belief by the year 4409, and in Dorvik by 4398. Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 23:29:10, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Mr Pfeiffer, Religion is believed by most ethnologists, protolinguists and historians to have originated before the advent of civilization, as shown by ancient religious cites that go back to the last ice age. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 23:31:08, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | I shall repeat. This would make Hosianism generally Dorvik's religion, not CotS in particular. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 23:53:54, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Ms. Kirchen, Karlstein Metz's Theory of History teaches us that before the advent of civilisation, humans were in a state of "primitive communism", where society was egalitarian and there were no religious power structures. I would be happy to loan you a copy of the book, or indeed make the entire library of Karlstein Metz's works available to you, if you are at all further interested. Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 23:58:28, October 18, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Mr Pfeiffer, I trust the entirety of theological, ethnological, lingustical and historical science over this one man. How does Metz explain the fact that there are ancient burial sites of varying splendour from the neolithic age within the same cultures? Or the existance of neolitich words of power structure pieces? Or the vast system of totems and other religious imagery from the neolithic age? Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 00:04:51, October 19, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Ms. Kirchen, As has been extensively demonstrated by Metzist scholars, all of that has been entirely fabricated by biased archaeologists who were immersed in pro-capitalist ideology and being paid by the capitalist power structure. Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 00:05:35, October 19, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Mr Pfeiffer, You are a conspiracy theorist. I will no longer dignify you with my time. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
| Date | 00:13:35, October 19, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | You, Ms. Kirchen, are a Metzism-denier. Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 16:26:35, October 19, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the True Path of Hosianism Bill |
| Message | Yes, I am. Because your ideology is stupid. Cindy Kirchen Coleader of Pragmatismus |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 130 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 469 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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