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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of November 4292
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Populist Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4293
Description[?]:
| Proposing a fair Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the National Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the National Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the People's Populist Front
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the People's Populist Front
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the National Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Pirate Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Félagsleg Demókrati Partí
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Pirate Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Kafe commune
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Kafe commune
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Félagsleg Demókrati Partí
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the People's Populist Front
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the National Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:21:15, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | I have tried to make this cabinet fair, since the vote is fairly evenly spread throughout the parties, with the People's Populist front and the National Party gaining the highest number of votes, therefore we both have 3 posts each, whereas the others all have two each |
| Date | 22:24:44, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Kafe commune | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | I agree with this distribution |
| Date | 22:29:25, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Good, I will begin the voting phase when I know of more people's opinions |
| Date | 22:32:33, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Why have you proposed a grand coalition of national unity - is Telamon engaged in a world war? There's absolutely no way that we'll work with the Libertarian Socialists or raging communists. |
| Date | 22:34:35, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | LSP has proposed to abolish the police - does anyone really think they're fit for government or believe in the concept of having a government for that matter? |
| Date | 22:37:02, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | As a Libertarian Socialist, referring to anarchist (mainly socialist), I obviously don't want any form of government or authority, so I agree with the National Coalition Party. |
| Date | 22:37:52, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | I have done this to be fair, since there is no clear largest party or even parties. Also, if we could try not to slander other parties please |
| Date | 22:39:03, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | if you want to withdraw from the cabinet LSP, you may |
| Date | 22:40:41, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | In which countries is it the norm that after having an election to choose a government every party forms the government anyway, what's the point of having elections? |
| Date | 22:44:24, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | As I say I have tried to be fair. There isn't a clear singular government in the congress anyway, so this is a difficult business. If you don't like it, don't vote for it |
| Date | 22:45:44, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | As I say I have tried to be fair. There isn't a clear singular government in the congress anyway, so this is a difficult business. If you don't like it, don't vote for it |
| Date | 22:57:48, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | There you go, two parties objected to it. |
| Date | 22:59:02, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | I already said that I don't want to be part of this. |
| Date | 23:02:02, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Fine, well your loss, not mine |
| Date | 23:05:40, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Hopefully this will act as a lesson because it shows how ridiculous and impractical ir is trying to get all of the parties to work together in a cabinet for no reason. The norm would be to try to set up a right-wing, centrist or left-wing coalition of like-minded parties - not anarchists, communists, centrists, populists and nationalists.. |
| Date | 23:15:30, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | The only thing I regret is letting you and your half-witted friend participate in this godforsaken debate |
| Date | 23:18:54, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Everyone vote against this one, I have created a new one |
| Date | 23:19:13, October 25, 2017 CET | From | Pirate Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | That's democracy, freedom of speech and realism. Don't get upset when things don't go your own way - at least try dialogue and negotiation. I reckon a National-PPF-NCP coalition is perfectly plausible, for example. Unless you prefer with two anarchist parties, one of which participates in elections with the intention of not entering government. |
| Date | 23:53:17, October 25, 2017 CET | From | People's Populist Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4292 |
| Message | Don't treat me like you know better mate - I've reformed the cabinet now sod off |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 174 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 576 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: It is not allowed to call more than 5 elections in 5 game years in a nation. The default sanction for a player persisting in the early election tactic will be a seat reset. |
| Random quote: "The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall, and if you don't go there, they shoot you." - P. J. O'Rourke |