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Bill: P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4293
Description[?]:
| Lavinia Menegrini, LP: "Hon. collegues, It is absurde that the protection of the individuals should harm the interest of the rest of the society. The Government should have the right to allow the eminent domain. It is inconceivable that, for example, the project of a motorway which interests all the mainland (or all the island) and so that could bring benefits to dozens of millions of people, should be blocked by some individuals. Do you understand the words "Vital Public Works"? These people don't live alone, they are part of a larger community and they must respect the needs of the society, because they are part of it and what improves the well-being of the entire society improves the well-being of each member! And stop to claim about stealing! Nobody steal nothing to nobody! The compensations exist for this reason, so, avoid to make fools of yourselves talking about idiocies!" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The government may not seize private property.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:47:53, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Luciana Vespa, PNP Leader, The freedom of the individual is always more important than the interest if the community, becuase without said freedom, there is no point, no foundation, to do anything else. This bill greatly infringes on the freedom to seize the fruits of ones labour, hence we urge all freedom loving parties to vote against this bill, and the others should feel ashamed that they are lectured about freedom by a nationalist party! *PNP seats cheer* |
| Date | 01:06:37, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Alessandro Eugenio di Nacosia-Rohan, Leader of LP: "What you said simply is false! At least half of the legal framework of the istalian Law is dedicated to the protection of the community by the action of the individuals (all juridic persons). And we are scared by such statements, made by an exponent of a party member of the Government. We wonder if the PNP is respecting its role of representative of all the istalian nation and of all the istalian people. After such statement someone could also wonder if maybe you could protect the interests of few individuals rather the one of Istalia. And you know... Someone once said that the freedom without limits becames only prevarication" |
| Date | 07:05:50, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Alberto Salazar, ULD Why? Why do you want to push forward a bill that clearly opposes the Istalian society? It won't have any good impact on your image nor will it hurt us, for opposing this atrocity. I just don't understand the reasoning. And, to calm you down, Sir, here's a fact: instead of seizinf or, if I may, stwaling the property, you could very well buy it or exchange it for some other property, that costed around as much as the original. |
| Date | 11:55:07, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Alessandro Eugenio di Nacosia-Rohan: "Mr Salazar, but what are you saying? All of us WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ?????? When the State seizes a property, it is ALWAYS due a compensation! What on earth are you saying? Stwaling? Teft? Robbery? The State MUST give compensation for every seizur! ALWAYS and in ANY CASE! And our legislation in fact provides that a neutral body determines the compensation and provides that the involved parties have the right to make appeal if they considered as not satisfatory the compensation: http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariable.php?variable=EMINENT_DOMAIN_COMP In Istalia is illegal seize the private property without give adeguate compensation! So, what the hell are you taling about?????" |
| Date | 14:40:20, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | OOC: The amount of mistakes in my last comment XD |
| Date | 15:58:24, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Alberto Salazar, ULD Mr Nacosia-Rohan, do you think that in every case the people get their recompensation? From our history, we know that that isn't the case. From other countries, we know that, too. So, please. Believe me; it's better to kill a problem in the bud than to let it grow. |
| Date | 17:08:00, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 01/4293 - Interest of the society Act |
| Message | Alessandro Eugenio di Nacosia-Rohan: "someone that doesn't have his compensation should bring before a Court the authority which didn't assure the compensation! And from where you bring here these "statistics"?" OOC: ahahahahhahah |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 273 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 362 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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