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Bill: Homeless Reintegration Nationalisation Bill 4293
Details
Submitted by[?]: Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4294
Description[?]:
| Members of Congress, It is ridiculous that some homeless shelters and reintegration projects are being left to the private sector, I hope the government can recognise that the profit motive is not appropriate in these environments. Richard Leonardo Congressional Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia Shadow Secretary of State for Finance |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Old value:: There are government-run shelters, but these coexist with privately run shelters.
Current: The government runs all homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Proposed: The government runs all homeless shelters and reintegration projects
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:12:55, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Homeless Reintegration Nationalisation Bill 4293 |
| Message | Congress, It appears Congressional Leader Leonardo is struggling to fathom how to construct a basic argument. He merely asserts: "It is ridiculous that some homeless shelters and reintegration projects are being left to the private sector" and notes "profit motive is not appropriate in these environments". He doesn't mention why it is an inherently bad thing for the private sector to operate homeless shelters and claims that it's down to "profit motive". What he omits is that many of these privately run shelters do extreme good, and the people at these private shelters also must have something to live off. Additionally, many privately run shelters are, indeed, operating on a not-for-profit basis. Jacoberius Reeserius-Moggerius Financial Spokeseperson for Forward! |
| Date | 08:03:39, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Homeless Reintegration Nationalisation Bill 4293 |
| Message | No. The government should leave this in the capable hands of the market. President Fitzgerald. |
| Date | 08:58:45, October 27, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Homeless Reintegration Nationalisation Bill 4293 |
| Message | Congressperson Reeserius-Moggerius, I believe I did say why it was an inherently bad thing for homeless reintegration. As you reference yourself it is because of the profit motive. This leads to them not making decisions with the interests of those receiving the service first in mind. And charities are no different, they need to pander to the emotions of potential donors in order to raise money and thus will make decisions based on what seems most morally good to the untrained public rather than what is actually the best thing to do. The fact is that the first concern of the market is not helping people, but raising a profit and that is not compatible with a service designed to help people. Richard Leonardo Congressional Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia Shadow Secretary of State for Finance |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 175 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 317 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 108 |
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