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Bill: Malgus Thaller
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dorvische Kommunistische Partei
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4301
Description[?]:
| Mr. Chairman, As we all know, Malgus Thaller, the odious human rights abuser and Kalopian tyrant, escaped from his jail in Dorvik several years back. It has now emerged he is living comfortably in Deltaria, where he is being feted as a star guest at the Second International Thaller Congress. May I request an update from the government as to how it has responded to this situation, and what discussions, if any, it is has had with the Deltarian government? It is the strong view of the Dorvish Communist Party that Malgus Thaller is an international criminal who belongs behind bars. Anton Weinreich General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party OOC: Some background info... Malgus Thaller jailed in Dorvik - http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=353&start=1120#p120590 Malgus Thaller escapes from Dorvish jail - http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4398&p=123289#p123289 Malgus Thaller granted asylum in Deltaria - http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4398&p=123778#p123553 Malgus Thaller to appear at Thaller Congress - http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7657 You can find much more on the forum, just do a search... |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:17:19, November 06, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | We are not looking to incite any further international incidents, and don't expect Deltaria to take a helpful opinion. We will be reconsidering this issue in the near future. Anna Strauss Dorvish President NP Leader |
| Date | 22:37:23, November 06, 2017 CET | From | Reactionary Faction | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | Given that Mr Thaller was illegally kidnaped and not given a fair trial and given the fact that he had relatives in Deltaria, our nation gave asylum to this man. Whatever congress he attends while here is none of our concern. Deltarian Foreign Office |
| Date | 01:13:14, November 07, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | Mr. Chairman, I agree with the Deltarian representative that the manner in which Malgus Thalller was captured and then imprisoned was unorthodox, and could reasonably be seen as lacking in legitimacy. But nevertheless, Malgus Thaller is an international criminal who belongs behind bars. Could the government consider asking Deltaria to hand Malgus Thaller over to some kind of international court sponsored by the World Congress, so he can face justice? Anton Weinreich General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 02:56:25, November 07, 2017 CET | From | Reactionary Faction | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | Given he was held in custody for approximately 3 decades, we strongly believe that he has served his sentence and will not comply with any request to have him tried before an international court. That being said, if he is charged with similar offences, we would consider handing him over to stand trial for those. Deltarian Foreign Office |
| Date | 03:08:19, November 07, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | Mr. Chairman, I am grateful to the Deltarian representative for providing his government's point of view on this situation. I would be still more grateful if the Deltarian representative could provide us with us with a full account of what involvement, if any, the Deltarian government had with Malgus Thaller's escape from jail in Dorvik? Anton Weinreich General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
| Date | 06:41:14, November 07, 2017 CET | From | Reactionary Faction | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | The Deltarian Government has no involvement in Mr Thaller’s escape. An unknown third party was clearly responsible. Some years afterward, he presented himself to the immigration department from which he was granted asylum for the reasons already mentioned. It is possible he was here illegally well before we received him. Nevertheless there is no proof of this and the fact that he did present himself showed a willingness to cooperate with authorties. Deltarian Foreign Office |
| Date | 02:24:45, November 10, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | OOC: Archiving for now. |
| Date | 09:56:33, November 10, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | If i may, as internal affairs minister i would like to show me deepest concerns regarding the stance of the Deltarian government. Malgus Thaller has not yet served his term. If he did he would not have escaped from his prison after all. It is an international criminal that terrorized the people of his nation and caused immense suffering for thousands of people. I as internal affairs minister would like to ask the Deltarian government to sincerely reconsider the extradition of Malgus Thaller. It is up to the foreign minister to send a request but if she does we would like the Deltarian government to cooperate. Arthur Goldreich, Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 18:00:26, November 10, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | I will communicate further with Deltaria. But frankly, I don't see their position changing. Jennifer Von Meyer Foreign Affairs Minister NP Deputy Leader |
| Date | 18:44:44, November 10, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Malgus Thaller |
| Message | I echo the views of the Internal Affairs Minister. Anton Weinreich General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 549 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Unless otherwise stated, monarchs and their royal houses will be presumed to be owned by the player who introduced the bill appointing them to their position. |
| Random quote: "We here thank those in Deltaria who put [Zardic spy Mona Rivet] to justice in the most humane way possible. With bullets." - Sergio Rodriguez, former Egelian journalist |