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Bill: Identity Cards Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2192
Description[?]:
We propose that all citizens are entitled to identity cards to certify their credentials: |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:58:01, February 25, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | what's wrong with a passport or drivers license etc. - people are already entitled to those and can use them to prove their identity if they wish |
Date | 22:08:36, February 25, 2006 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | Well, not everybody has a passport and not everybody has a driving license for a start. In addition to this, it is not unfeasbale that newly-introduced identity cards could replace those other forms of identity. |
Date | 10:59:57, February 26, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | your description of this bill states, 'We propose that all citizens are entitled to identity cards to certify their credentials' by point was that if they are simply to entitle people to certify their identity then passports or drivers licenses would suffice. Indeed they still suffice as if one is not required to carry an identity card then what is actually the point? |
Date | 13:03:37, February 26, 2006 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | As I stated, not every citizen has a driving license or a passport. Forcing people to carry identity cards on their persons at all times is simply impractical. |
Date | 13:40:53, February 26, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | precisely, so there is in fact no point in issuing identity cards. If someone wants to have some form of ID then they can apply for a passport etc. |
Date | 15:54:41, February 26, 2006 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Identity Cards Bill |
Message | Well, they can't apply for a driving license without actually passing a qualifying examination. Driving licenses aren't so much forms of identification but certificates granting citizens to drive vehicles. Similarly, passports are designed to allow international travel by subjects and citizens of a state, not for identification within that state per se. If someone wants these forms of identification, then they can apply for them, true. However, the identity cards as proposed will not be optional and therefore people won't have to apply for them. Where the option exists, many will choose not to for whatever reason. Those who would see passports and driving licenses as non-essentials might not be able to identify themselves with satisfaction. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 117 | |||
no | Total Seats: 129 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 94 |
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