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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of May 4309
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kongelig Parti
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4310
Description[?]:
| The Kongelig Parti proposes this cabinet as a replacement of the now defunct former cabinet. We hope this cabinet can help work towards a more Third Way economy and provide a good and safe life for our citizens. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Kongelig Parti
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Kongelig Parti
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Høyre (Right Vote!)
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Høyre (Right Vote!)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Kongelig Parti
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Høyre (Right Vote!)
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Høyre (Right Vote!)
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:46:25, November 27, 2017 CET | From | Nasjonalt Arbeiderparti 🌹 | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, The representative from the Royalist Party champion the cause of "a good and safe life for our citizens." Throughout the incumbent government's tenure, this royalist party has: 1. Championed a xenophobic sentiment where it pertains to equal opportunity for the foreign nationals residing in the nation. 2. Opposed the abolition of a barbaric form a punishment within the prison system. 3. Opposed the abolition of media restriction and propaganda. We can recall many instances in which the Royalist Party attempted to disrupt the democracy process and threaten the stability of in our informed democracy. It is no secret that the Royalist Party is a fascist spawn and kowtowing the irrational and aimless demands of the fascist movement. A movement which has threatened the single policy which said party promotes: The monarchy. How blind must a political leader be to allow for fascist political party, the same political party that almost crippled this nation's economy, crippled our defencive posture, endangered the lives of our citizens and foreign nationals, brought about a sentiment of hate speech, racism and xenophobia; to rule its affairs and determine its path of serving the citizens of Kazulia, regards of their origin, race, religions or political affiliation. The sentiments of fascism being peddled by the royalist party and the fascist party are sentiments which are no longer in this nation. This proposed fascist government (excluding the Alliance Party), has failed to represent the people, has failed to ensure the security of our nation's people, has failed to maintain and develop our economic prowess, has failed to maintain the core principles of democracy. Such a government should never be allowed to lead our nation towards the future. For this government will reverse years of progress and development in the single minded aim of obtaining an authoritarian, homogeneous society. Such a government should never serve our people. Jørgen Gregersen Statsminister of the Kingdom of Kazulia Nasjonal Arbeiderkongress |
| Date | 00:23:10, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Kjerne | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | *From the Kjerne benches, now and then, uncontrolled cheers and bursts of joy can be heard, but are hushed and suppressed by other Kjerne MPs, among them, Atlas Skuldristen who then speaks* The rift within our nation keeps aggravating, but I am sure there is a solution to it. We are not against diversity, but we are assured we shall be able to have diversity without parties coagulating on two mutually mistrustful fronts building up into a civil war. Now, we are already in a foreign war with our neighbours. I don't like this, but it is a reality that has to be accepted. It is a just war of broad support. We shall propose a temporary one-party government held by the NA, as best suited for to collect our forces, both on the battleground, and in civilian life. What Statsminister Gregersen just said, I appeal to the royalists to hear it with patience. I affirm there is a lot of rage in this country, and we don't want a civil war - the royal house could be the first target of the rage of our ranks. Something has to be done about the oppression, the medieval taxes the common people crumble under, all the while they see that nobility is reinstated. Our people have learned now to expect this from all the parties. They don't even trust Kjerne in this issue now. Yes, I must admit to my mistakes. We were too eager to take place in the government after the Highsun barren land, but we should not have taken place in a government without guarantee of a tax reform for the broad masses. Let's not let them down any more! Also you, of the noble class, ultimately depend on the people. -Atlas Skuldristen, Group Leader of Kjerne |
| Date | 02:02:12, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Kongelig Parti | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | Herr Statsminister, Herr Huspresident, I would first like to make this very clear - I am no one's lap dog. I will not make the same mistakes as my predecessor Magnus, I will not stand idly by when fascism tries to tear our people apart. The Royal Party has consistently been labelled "fascist' since the time of Hughsun's dictatorship. By simply not disappearing and continuing to exist alongside the NAF, the Royal Party has been lumped together in the same group as them, despite the fact that we did not extend their reign and did not vote in favor of many of their bills. The Royal Party is its own entity, and at the core of our beliefs is the promise that as a government we can keep all of our citizens safe, while still preserving their freedom. This is why we fundementaly disagree with many of the fascists' policies. The Royal Party disagrees with returning all media channels back to the private sector, but the Statsminister must not forget that the Royal Party also voted no when the fascists proposed to nationalize all media. The Royal Party felt and still feels that the best solution would be to have private media channels as well as a publicslly sponsored channel for informational purposes, providing a news source the people know they can trust. On the topic of foreign workers I would like to say that I do not completely oppose immigrants or immigrant workers, the Royal Party believes that we as a government should prioritize securing jobs for our own citizens first, as they have lived here and depend on Kazulian for any kind of support. On the topic of the death penalty, the Royal Party has firmly stated that it should be an option for only the most treasonous and horrendous of crimes, such as crimes against humanity. We would also like to point out that the NA did vote for my bill that established the death penalty, and has since changed their stance. A main point I would like to get across to the NA and Kjerne, and all other parties as well, is that in many cases if we could compromise on issues, such as state/private media sources, we would be able to acheive much more change and reform than through making everyone choose an extreme from either Highsun's perspective or his opponents. This mentality will just ideologically tear this country further and further apart until the idea of a civil war, as Skuldristen said, is less and less unthinkable. The Royal Party would very much like to help mend this country after the shock of fascism, and we believe the best way to recover is through compromise. As you may find out, the Royal Party, at least economically, shares views at least half way between the fascists and the opposition, and in some cases even shares the same views as the opposition. And Skuldristen, I am sorry the Royal Party has been so uncooperative on the topic of income tax, I am not sure what we were thinking. We would very much like to work with Kjerne on some form of tax reform, we would even support your most recent tax change. I hope that we may soon be able to cooperate and work together to build a better Kazulia. -Verner Horn, Executive Party Director for the Kongelig Parti |
| Date | 03:27:53, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Kjerne | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | *On the Kjerne benches,as Verner Horn speaks, faces are stern, restrained. There is some sharing of sly glances, and ironic faces and whispers here and there. This until the last sentences, and as the words 'I am not sure what we were thinking' are heard, the Kjerne hearers are already transfixed into a still, breathless attention. As Horn goes on, a stir brews, and similarly as to when Gregersen spoke, the Kjerne hearers cannot control their displays of emotion. Even as Horn is finishing his last words, an applause begins, tentatively at first, but growing into a full ovation from the Kjerne benches. Some shouts are heard - first cheering, but soon turning into more mixed emotions and confusion, with some petulance and irony returning, while leaders, as earlier, are making moderating gestures and sounds. Atlas Skuldristen seems a bit at a loss, but silences the Kjerne crowd, and speaks with energy, but tentatively" Yes! Yes... Yes... Herr Horn... Obviously... we... are we not in accord...? May the rift be mended. *He walks up to the podium to reach Horns hand for a high handshake above the shoulders. Smiles merrily, then returns again to the hearers benches* Well, we will have to talk with the NA... and with your party, and all the others... the Queen.... Things can only get better... Well... We have work before us, ladies and gentlemen... What more can I say now. We look forward to the work that needs to be done. Now and then maybe it is allowed to get a bit carried away... Unfortunately we also have to think of this Hulstria war, though... Yes... Thank you... That's all for me, now... - Atlas Skuldristen, Group Leader of Kjerne |
| Date | 17:49:04, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Nasjonalt-Autokratiske Fascistparti | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, It seems the Nasjonal Arbeiderkongress has failed to take into account the measures by which the NAF stands- again. I personally have told representatives of the NAk that the NAF represents a system of dual fasco-monarchy. You have ignored us time and time again, and listen only to the liberal extremist filth in the Kjerne. Signed, Franz Highsun Leader of the Fascist Union |
| Date | 19:23:29, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Kjerne | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 4309 |
| Message | *Commotion in the Kjerne benches, and once again pacified, as Atlas Skuldristen speaks* Herr Huspresident, The question is not whether the NAF is monarchist. Be as monarchist as you will, Franz Highsun, what does it concern the Kazulian people? The question is whether monarchists... and is there any party here that is not monarchist..? the question is if the monarchist parties are fascist. That is the issue here, and we will not be satisfied with less than 5-6 (depending on if we count Hedningarna) decisive answers, in word and deed, of- NO! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 82 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 111 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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