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Bill: Condemnation of the Libertarian Socialist Party
Details
Submitted by[?]: Workers' Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4310
Description[?]:
| This resolution, if passed, will duly express the sentiments and the reprimands of the Congress and by proxy the people of Telamonia. 1. The Libertarian Socialist Party claims to be an anarchist party and has expressed in multiple occasions that it does not want to be part of the government. After the absence of the Kafe Commune, it has held early elections and gained the majority of seats in Congress, and has newly proclaimed its dominance and has told the people of Telamonia and other parties to accept the status quo. This is one of the most heinous and hypocritical acts an anarchist party could commit, that is, if the party in question is truly faithful to its values. 2. The Libertarian Socialist Party has criticized the Workers' Party in the midst of the latter proposing a new cabinet while the former is in the position of power. It has ironically accused the party of being jealous, selfish, and greedy, while it itself basically portrays all three traits by not wanting to give up its position of high power and making unfounded, denigrating, childlike, and reactionary comments towards a specific party especially as an anarchist party. These actions can be described as laughably objectionable. 3. The Libertarian Socialist Party wants to prevent the formation of a new cabinet and calls for early elections when the Constitution allows parties and members of Congress to do so. Congress has reason to suspect the LSP of having an unconstitutional mindset or/and agenda. 4. The Libertarian Socialist Party has made ridiculous and unfounded statements regarding the actions of the Workers' Party; when the latter was exercising its constitutional right to propose a cabinet, the LSP has compared the action, of which itself is nothing wrong, as the actions of an unknown dictator who supposedly massacred people. 5. (OOC) The Libertarian Socialist Party has forgotten that real-life figures, like the aforementioned dictator, cannot be mentioned in the game. 6. For the above reasons, the Congress of the Republic of Telamonia formally and officially condemn the political entity called the Libertarian Socialist Party. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:36:48, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Condemnation of the Libertarian Socialist Party |
| Message | 1. The mainly reason why I didn't want to be part of the government was because Kafe Commune had the same ideology and thoughts as me, and I thought that I only needed to vote on proposals to keep Telamon out of nationalist hands, helping Kafe Commune and Kafe Commune helping me. Since Kafe Commune is gone, I'm able to replace him. 2. Huh, you called for a coalition against me when I haven't got a single day as HoS and you mean you do not want to be the HoS so you tried, with Green Party, to oppose me and gain power of the nation? I don't get your logic, why then didn't you give me a chance and see how can I lead Telamon to the same way Kafe Commune was leading it? It's annoying, don't go crying out if I'm agressive because you're trying to oppose me because of my ideologies when I didn't have a chance of being HoS before starting making a coaliting against my party. 3. This game is seriously like real life politics, lying everywhere. And that's why I am here, to prevent parties like yours lying around to get the power I've got. When did I say I oppose the new cabinet and the calls of early elections? I just said it's pathetic you do so just to gain more power than me and then destroy me. If you didn't know, democratically, we concluded time ago that we should get every party, with seats, in a cabinet, and especially the largest parties because they are importants. You are right now breaking that conclusion, that democratic conclusion that we've all been following. 4. I answered everything you said, but firstly, I said that a communist IRL dictator made many communists like him kill people just because of a different ideology, because they had more power than them. It's a fact, it's not a 'supposedly massacred people'. It's a way to call you hunger of power and that you oppose people by its ideologies, because I defend everyone's rights and I want to save the environment (as you can see by the way at my party's ideology chart) and both of you are against me because I'm the HoS and I'm extremist - anarchist. That's all, no problem if you confess, but stop trying to oppose me with that stupid reasons, because you misunderstood my words, or you are completely lying to win this 'war'. 5. That's why I said OOC, if you didn't notice, OOC means Out Of Character, so technically I stop roleplaying and I'm able to say an IRL name for the first time in my life to represent what you are doing and planning to do. If that's breaking a rule, using IRL ideologies: communism, anarchism, nationalism, fascism and that all is also breaking a rule, it's your logic. |
| Date | 15:45:09, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Condemnation of the Libertarian Socialist Party |
| Message | And by the way, democratically, and you were here then, we agreed on a bill formation that you are right now breaking. I said in that bill, that you should firstly put a bill as a debate for a day and then vote, because if not, there would be a lot of things to discuss and the voting results would be unfair, since we couldn't get to a fair conclusion - since we didn't have time to discuss. Before talking, I suggest you to check my bills because they can help you to see that I've been trying to keep Telamon the thing it is now: a libertarian -democratic- republic. I've always opposed against two big nationalist parties, and I've won both times, with help of Kafe Commune. I've been here for months, I've never been HoS but, even thought I wanted to I resisted and opposed against the laws of nationalist and anti-libertarian parties. I'm not saying you are not able to oppose my party, or anyone, or not vote or propose a cabinet: that's just impossible. You are totally able, even if I am against that in this case, because we are free to choose what the nation and its citizen want. I've been choosed democratically by our nation's citizen, and you didn't oppose me until I got the "power" of this nation, winning the elections. And you've got no excuse to that, because you had a lot of times to oppose me: make a coalition and so. And now that I'm the HoS, you try to oppose me. You may call it democracy, but I call it being such a dirty party in hunger of power, no offence, but that's what I think and there's a thing called freedom, I can say what I think of any party, and you too, without any punishment. Isn't that democracy? Isn't that freedom? That's what I support. |
| Date | 15:49:38, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Condemnation of the Libertarian Socialist Party |
| Message | Talking about democracy when you do not allow me to be part of a cabinet or be HoS, have any power, it's pathetic and only hypocrites and liers do that. If you're the one going to lead Telamon, we will be in a great corrupted land, no offence, but after all of this, I can't expect nothing of you, Workers' Party. I didn't have anything against you, even thought we didn't agree on mostly everything, but now seems that I've seen another face of you. |
| Date | 16:23:19, November 28, 2017 CET | From | Green Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the Libertarian Socialist Party |
| Message | Green party calls on the parties to display a maximum degree of restraint. We are all left-wing parties and we share a lot of similarities. We are supposed to work inside the parliament in harmony and for the good of our citizens. It is the second time we make elections and until now we have not made an agreement on the formation of the government. Our citizens are in need of a government, the caretaker government we have for about 4 years cannot manage the state. And since our citizens are the ones who must take the final decision, we are going to call for early elections, and we suggest the following: If the citizens choose only one party with the majority of seats (375+1) then this party forms the government alone. If the citizens do not give any party the majority, then the first and the second party form the government compulsorily. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 208 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 542 |
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