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Bill: Education Reform Bill 4311
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4311
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 10:24:07, December 01, 2017 CET | From | National Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Reform Bill 4311 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Under the careless laws from years of far-left rule, tertiary education has been effectively outlawed. It is time for universities and colleges to be opened back up across Telamonia. John Miller Leader of the National Democratic Party |
Date | 17:56:26, December 01, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Education Reform Bill 4311 |
Message | Unless we change the voluntary school to compulsory, making universities is useless. The voluntary schools, if people go in there, won't work for grades or ages, you simply get divided in classes but not grades by your age or intelectual. So then, you can assist to that school at the age you want, or study from home. Also, we do not like the fact of making education compulsory because you don't have to learn things you don't want to, and we don't say this because we are anarchists and believe in the freedom of everyone, it's a fact, no kid likes going to school "learning" things they don't care about, and that's a threat to the future and progress of the nation, not many people will work at "stable jobs" they like, so we choose to give everyone to join the job they like regardless of their school notes. |
Date | 18:25:40, December 01, 2017 CET | From | National Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Reform Bill 4311 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The only thing that is a threat to the future and progress of this country are the barbaric tactics used by the Libertarian Socialists to force Telamonia back to the medieval ages. There is nothing in this bill stating that education would be made compulsory. Telamonia is the only country in the world to have banned higher education. Perhaps, if the Libertarian Socialists seem hell-bent on advocating the freedom of children to learn what they want, they could consider those who aspire to go on to university as their parents and grandparents once did. John Miller Leader of the National Democratic Party |
Date | 18:38:28, December 01, 2017 CET | From | Félagsleg Demókrati Partí | To | Debating the Education Reform Bill 4311 |
Message | The Libertarian Socialists are not primitivists, but we oppose universities because a voluntary school would have no grades, so making an university (as well as other school institutions based on grades) would oppose what we do believe in. Particracy doesn't allow us, in general, to put several options as proposals, so as a voluntary school we mean a school entirely voluntary with no grades or grade based institutions such as universities, when you can learn at your house without going to a university, and then they will be prepared to work, without any certification from school that allows you or not to be part of the job you'd like to be in. |
Date | 19:03:46, December 01, 2017 CET | From | National Democratic Party | To | Debating the Education Reform Bill 4311 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I am sure all Telamonians can rest easy at night, now knowing that those in charge of vital and potentially dangerous services across the country are completely unqualified to do their jobs. John Miller Leader of the National Democratic Party |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 208 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 336 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 206 |
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