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Bill: Constitutional Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Democratic Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4313
Description[?]:
A bill to consider changes to the constitution. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:40:23, December 04, 2017 CET | From | Lodamun Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | We wish to test opinion among other parties to move to a presidential system. - Loren Courtenay Leader, Lodamun Democratic Party. |
Date | 08:06:23, December 04, 2017 CET | From | Lodamese Democratic Progressive Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The New Green Party would like to voice support for this proposition. Noland Harlen, NGPoL Chairman |
Date | 18:43:07, December 04, 2017 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, LNC says 'nay' on this one. Paulo Mrazni Minister of Education and Culture |
Date | 19:00:29, December 04, 2017 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We agree with the LNC. Consider their vote ours as well. Casey George Minister of Internal Affairs |
Date | 21:14:51, December 04, 2017 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, the President is being elected in an utmost democratic way. We do not need two seperate leaders in our nation. This would only bring us confusion and issues on power and responsibility. We have one leader now, who represents the nation and all members of Presidium. It is those members of Presidium who, chosen i a democratic way, govern this nation. They choose their Ministers and their President. It seems to me that there is no better way of doing this. If the President should loose the support of the Presidium, he can be empeached in a very simple ad easy way. There would be no need for early elections, which might even cause that same person being elected again. This system only has advantages. Lex Gorky President of Lodamun Representative of LNC |
Date | 00:12:11, December 05, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The LPA have supported this structure of the executive branch for hundreds of years. We had such a structure when Lodamun was a Federal Republic, and it served us well. We have never believed that the the powers of head of state and head of government should be held by one person. This is a dangerous arrangement and extremely undemocratic. If this bill does not pass, we will be more than willing to work with the LDP and other supporters to ensure we return to this structure in the future. Dianne Atkinson LPA Leader |
Date | 06:05:37, December 05, 2017 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Constitutional Reform Bill |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I don't get Mrs. Atkinson. We all know that it is far more dangerous if two people are at the top, as we say. Don't forget that the Head of State can block the formation of a coalition in the proposed system. Does that sound democratic? Manu Karacz Minister of Defence |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 270 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 327 | |||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 2 |
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