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Bill: Paramilitary Policy
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Left Party - Equality First
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4319
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed as part of each political party.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:24:13, December 16, 2017 CET | From | Anarchist Socialist Party | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | The party has a right to defend itself from other parties and the state, if necessary! Johann Peterson Representative of the Anarchist Socialist Party |
| Date | 20:16:52, December 16, 2017 CET | From | Republican Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | Dear god what has happend to this once great nation. Allowing paramilitary organisations for political parties, why? Are we in such a state of turmoil that we can't trust the police, both federal and local. Or the justice system, so we must instead form political gangs with drive-bys and what not. To protect our politicians. We are on a dark and dangerous road towards dictatorship in this country. The Republican Centrist Alliance condems the goverment and President Erwin (who never seems to grow old and die) for pushing this kind of disgusting anti-democratic agenda. James Hancock Party Chairman of the Republican Centrist Alliance. |
| Date | 23:19:20, December 16, 2017 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | This is a disgusting policy. This is condoning ideological terrorism. We can't but frontally reject any kind of violence, and much more vehemently if it is grounded on ideological reasons. This is a disgusting move that makes our government coalition walk on thin ice, Ms. Erwin. Ariana Ortega Secretary of Homeland Security of Likatonia Leader of the Social Liberal Party |
| Date | 10:21:36, December 17, 2017 CET | From | United Left Party - Equality First | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | We are and has always been a militant party. We are however currently not seeking to initiate any form of revolution or uprising, we proposed this bill mostly becuse we don't trust the army or police to defend the public from right-wing extremists. |
| Date | 13:38:59, December 17, 2017 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | With this bill what you are doing is legalizing right-wing extremist and violent groups, don't you see? Currently the police can stop them. After this passes, they can't! We are freaking out that so many parties support turning our civilized nation into a violent society ruled by the strongest, most intimidating group. The Likatonian citizens have for a very long time put their trust on you. They have trusted their safety and security on you by giving you the rule of the police and army - the former you have delegated on me for the sake of coalition crafting, but the latter is controlled by your party colleague Ms. Watkins. And yet you can't trust her or me to do the right thing when it is needed? If it is such a concern to you, why didn't you keep Homeland Security for a ULP-EF member? This is nuts. You are putting your government in jeopardy for the sake accomplishing the wishes of the neo-nazis. Ariana Ortega Secretary of Homeland Security of Likatonia Leader of the Social Liberal Party |
| Date | 15:40:25, December 17, 2017 CET | From | United Left Party - Equality First | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | We agree wih you, we cannot und our damage, but we'll join the no block. |
| Date | 17:02:06, December 17, 2017 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | We are very relieved about the change of mind of the United Left Party and the Anarchist Socialist Party. It is very good news that violence based on ideological reasons will still be outlawed in our nation, and it is great news that we are part of a government with such open mind and with an open-eared leader such as President Erwin. We will continue to fight for the freedom and civil liberties of our citizens from their government. Ariana Ortega Secretary of Homeland Security of Likatonia Leader of the Social Liberal Party |
| Date | 17:24:31, December 17, 2017 CET | From | United Left Party - Equality First | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | Yes, but we still support the legalization of left-wing paramilitary groups. |
| Date | 17:25:43, December 17, 2017 CET | From | United Left Party - Equality First | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | And thank you for your good words Ariana, we are glad that we can co-operate and reason despite our differences. -President Mary Erwin |
| Date | 17:52:07, December 17, 2017 CET | From | Republican Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Paramilitary Policy |
| Message | So you would support a private army just for yourself. Wow. James Hancock Party Chairman of the Republican Centrist Alliance. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 107 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 273 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
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