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Bill: International maritime law/Law of the Sea
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2063
Description[?]:
| An act to govern territorial waters. Lodamun ratifies the Law of the Sea, which asserts: -- Absolute jurisdiction (Exclusive Economic Zone) of 100km from the shore, where this zone does not overlap with that of another country. -- Transient jurisdiction (Transit and Harvesting Zone) of 500km from the shore, where this zone does not overlap with that of another country. -- Where zones meet or overlap, the border shall be set at the median (halfway) line between land masses. For neighbouring countries, sea borders should extend perpendicular to the coast. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:21:02, June 04, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Given the Council's objection to the World Court bill, we do not feel that we can support this at this time. |
| Date | 22:45:15, June 04, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Actually, given that the World Court does not yet exist, that clause has been removed form the bill. Here's what we get from this: -- international recognition of our territorial waters from other states signing the law of the sea convention -- economic jurisdiction to 500 km, a very large zone -- territorial waters extend at 90 degree angles from our coastline, guaranteeing larger ocean areas under our jurisdiction -- stability in international waters through a codeified system of border delineation, thus reducing potential international disputes |
| Date | 01:41:23, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | The Council will support this under the condition that other nations pledge to accept such a system of border delineation. Otherwise, it's rather useless to state where our borders are. |
| Date | 01:56:08, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | It's been ratified by a number of nations and is being debated in others. It establishes a claim and ensures that other signatories will recognize that claim. |
| Date | 01:57:10, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Is there a place to view the original act then, or the signatory nations, at least? |
| Date | 02:50:24, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Yup. Thread is at: http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604&mforum=particracy |
| Date | 16:41:03, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | The 2nd June Movement is of course entitled to its views and to vote any way it sees fit, but may we with the greatest possible respect ask the reasons for its opposition? We are hoping to learn something about the foreign policy of the PACF parties. |
| Date | 18:03:46, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | The Council has discussed the matter and has decided to pledge support as long as the World Court is not involved and as long as we are able to withdraw from the treaty if disagreeable changes occur. |
| Date | 21:06:29, June 05, 2005 CET | From |  National People's Gang | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | An international law requires an international police force and an international judiciary. We cannot support the law without supporting at least the concept of the other two, which we do not. If Jack Smith, of Timbuktu, fishes in "our" waters because his dad and his grandmother, his aunt and his nephew have fished there since forever, that's ok by us. If the fleet of the Corporate Fishing Services, operating in international waters with its radar and spotter planes, bags entire immature shoals which traditionally migrate to the Lodamun coast, that's very seriously not ok with us. |
| Date | 00:54:27, June 06, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Agreed. Jack Smith may do as he pleases, but international corporations must not over-fish our waters -- or those of any other state. International law, however, may operate by common consent, and does not requite any policing beyond that which can be done by the coast guard of each state. |
| Date | 01:15:01, June 06, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | International law, however, would sanction, by omission, the fishing to exhaustion of international waters. |
| Date | 01:16:25, June 06, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | Fair enough. That can be tackled next, once this takes effect. |
| Date | 01:24:19, June 06, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the International maritime law/Law of the Sea |
| Message | We should argue for it to be included and suspend joining until it is. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 225 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 140 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 50 |
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