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Bill: Tertiary Education Expansion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Neo-Liberal Party of Trigunia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2195
Description[?]:
| This bill is to expand the scope of the National Government within our Tertiary education institutions. The National Government should not only operate Universities but also vocational colleges and apprenticeships for those who choose not to go to University. Furthermore, it should make all tertiary education free so that students may attend according to their academic ability. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government maintains a system of universities nationwide.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:41:12, March 04, 2006 CET | From |  Fasces Kromina Conservatives | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | What's a vocational school? |
| Date | 21:25:36, March 04, 2006 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | a vocational school is like a technical college. it's a school where you learn a vocation or trade. |
| Date | 21:28:00, March 04, 2006 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | the government should not attempt to indoctrinate students by [badly] operating educational establishments. we would be willing to discuss state funding of education in the form of direct payments of grants or loans to students, but we will not countenance the state operating or directly funding establishments themselves. |
| Date | 23:59:33, March 04, 2006 CET | From | Neo-Liberal Party of Trigunia | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | The state should take on the responsibility of making Trigunia into a knowledge state where knowledge is one of the most important virtues required in order to become employed. Thus, the state should fund all tertiary education so that we can achieve such a goal. |
| Date | 12:29:32, March 06, 2006 CET | From | Tirgith Populus Party | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | You should have to earn your way into higher education, not have it given to you. |
| Date | 18:50:49, March 06, 2006 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Tertiary Education Expansion |
| Message | "The state should take on the responsibility of making Trigunia into a knowledge state where knowledge is one of the most important virtues required in order to become employed. Thus, the state should fund all tertiary education so that we can achieve such a goal." Where do you come up with this fiction? While Europe spends its time waffling about becoming a 'knowledge economy' while trying (badly) to run education. The US gets on with actually BEING a knowledge economy, with 17 of the 20 best universities in the world despite not using the state to run the education system. Either you want a successful knowledge economy, in which case, let the universities run and fund themselves; or you want a cosy but backward welfare state where you get to run and fund the universities, but don't deceive yourself into thinking you can have both. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 68 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 329 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 158 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "Isn't it about time that the US government stop supporting dictatorships and avaricious oligarchies with our tax monies, munitions, and diplomacy?" - Ralph Nader |