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Bill: Civil Liberties Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Monarchist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4352
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples and singles may adopt children.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the ability to change the legal definition of one's gender
Old value:: The government allows the individual to decide on gender identity.
Current: The government allows the individual to decide on gender identity.
Proposed: Individuals are not allowed to change their legal gender identity.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning sex reassignment surgery.
Old value:: Sex reassignment surgery is legal but regulated.
Current: Sex reassignment surgery is legal but regulated.
Proposed: Sex reassignment surgery is illegal.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Current: There is no explicit government policy on polygamy.
Proposed: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships and prosecute those who pursue a polygamous lifestyle.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:57:46, February 20, 2018 CET | From |  Klavian Corporate Syndicate | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | The Syndicate is unwilling to support this bill due to its constraints on Civil Liberties. The People should be free to do whatever they wish and spend money wherever they wish. |
| Date | 20:26:43, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | What a shocker the CMP after over a week of proposing no bills decides to try to strip away civil liberties |
| Date | 20:40:45, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | At least, we proposed something, not like your partner NDU. Since the early elections they havent proposed any bill. |
| Date | 20:47:10, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | And the first bill you’ve posted since the election strips away liberties Nice |
| Date | 21:38:23, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Maybe you should look better at the bills from our country. This bill isnt our first bill since elections. And we arent restricting civil liberties. We just bring back the normality. |
| Date | 21:40:14, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | And you are moving the debate from the point I made. Your beloved partner NDU hasnt done anything to our country since they have majority, while your party downgraded our foreign relations with countries like Alduria. You should be ashamed. |
| Date | 22:56:38, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | The normality When will you stop with this “normalization” Our LGBT community deserves the same respect and representation as heterosexuals If you were to gain power you would certainly genoicide them We will never let you destroy the values of democracy |
| Date | 22:59:21, February 20, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Ashamed You stand here with this bill that de-humanizes the LGBT community and you say I should be ashamed My foreign relation policies have brought us into 2 alliances,expanded our trade with Istalia,signed a treaty with Trigunia and got a stable nuclear program off the ground You have done nothing for this nation And you call me defending peoples civil liberties ashaming Look at the mirror |
| Date | 13:54:50, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Ha ha. Thats what you have done for Klavia? What have you done with your "great" treaty with Istalia? It isnt even ratified by Istalia. Or maybe should I remember you who was having the Ministry of Foreign Afairs when Trigunian president visited us? Can you guess who spoke with political parties from Trigunia and Istalia? Yes, it is CMP. We discussed treaties with Istalia, Trigunia and even we send messages to Valruzia to ratify some treaties of friendship and defenisve agreements between our countries. What do you call stable? Something that could destroy the whole world? Is that what you want? And where are your chwmiacal weapons? Oh, yes. You have deleted it. Just like your bill with communist nations. You should give some explanations in front of the Ecclesia for what have you done with our relationships. Countries like Alduria showed their concern and they said our relationship is downgraded. We wait you, Mrs. Cnut to response our partners statements. Take care not to withdraw the whole country from Terra, not just your bills. Signed, Traian Aurelius Leader of CMP |
| Date | 14:13:22, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | What have we done? Have we proposed something that declares this minority ilegal? No. We just proposed a new definition of the family and the marriage. We arent dehumanizing this minority. We are waiting proves to your responses. What have we done to dehumanize this minority? Citizens of Klavia are free to do whatever they want until their liberty inteferes with another ones. Why are you accusing us of a possible genocide? Havent we been in power in Klavia for many years? Have you seen a single person killed by our party? No, we havent done anything to them. At least, we dont say about other parties that "their reign of terror will not be tolerated" or that " we don't deliver what the people request". Have the citizens of Klavia asked for some nuclear weapons? What happens in case of an accident? The whole island will be destroyed by your actions. We are waiting our reign of terror to be ended just as you said. A value of democracy is to protect opposition. You are accusing us of destroying the democratic values, while you are threatining us in one of your articles to end our reign of terror. Very nice portion of hypocrisy from PNP. And you say we will kill members part of LGBT. But what have you said about communists? Lets ask countries that you have put them on an Axis of Evil list. Signed, Marcus Gracchus VP of CMP |
| Date | 20:25:22, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | You want an explanation on why I deleted the bill in chemical weapons The Klavian Corporate Syndicate put “We should develop a weapon that will make enemies shit themselves”. After that I’m not trusting any of you to make chemical weapons. And second off the list of communist I took down do to it being complete. I asked you for your opinions and to see if it was correct. I did more fact checking with the help of people from the nations listed and cut down the list to official communist nations. And about the Alduria comments. One we aren’t involved with them in anyway and two who cares what Alduria says. There across the world from us. There comments don’t affect us. And the nuclear program has allowed us to sell our weapons to allies like Dankuk who messaged me about buying them. |
| Date | 20:39:13, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Now onto your disgusting stripping of freedoms Your proposal to a “new definition of family and marriage” denies them the right to have a family and be married. And you said “Citizens of Klavia are free to do whatever they want until their liberty inteferes with another ones.“. Ok explain how is having gay marriage,sex transition surgery,polygamous marriages,and allowing homosexuals to adopt is “interfering with another’s liberties”. The fact that you said that is a contradiction to this bill. You are stripping away freedoms from innocent people. Next you state that your party has never committed crimes. That is true however we pointed it out as a hypothetical. You are doing what the most vile of leaders have done. First you take away there liberties and then once you’ve made the majority believe them to be evil you kill them! Next stop on the idiocy train “what happens in case of an accident regarding our nuclear weapons”. What are the odds that an accident will occur regarding our nuclear weapons. Half of them won’t even be on Klavian soil rather in nuclear submarines. And all nuclear weapons are to be checked constantly for any leakage or danger. That why we have the defense ministry to deal with that. So trust us to do the job you couldn’t. Next I did say you don’t and didn’t deliver what the people wanted. It’s true. The people want a stable government, the people want a good defense minister, they want to be protected, and they want us to be a major player on the world stage. Finally I didn’t accuse any communist nation or people of being “an axis of evil”. I stated what they themselves stated. And if you want to use Vorona as an example I simply told everyone to be weary of them. I as defense minister have a job to protect my people and that means I have to plan for every scenario. Even the unlikely ones. |
| Date | 21:49:24, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Reconstruire l'ancien (RA) | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | Alduria wishes trade and openness with all nations, to regard that our two nations “[aren’t] involved in any way” is ridiculous and nonsensical. Every nation in our world is connect in some way shape or form. Not only do we trade on a regular bases, but our governments are intertwined on a huge diplomatic scale and we do not take this comment likely. Your previous comments were undiplomatic, and our foreign affairs department is looking into once again our relationship with our nations. Aldruia hopes that we can look past these incidents, but we shall continue to remind the PNP of their language when conducting diplomacy, and the importance of international relations. |
| Date | 21:56:30, February 21, 2018 CET | From | Royal Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Liberties Act |
| Message | We understand the importance of international relations as we ourselves are very involved I say we put all incidents in the past and look ahead to the future |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 49 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 416 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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| Random quote: "There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle." - Alexis de Tocqueville |