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Bill: P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P.
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4356
Description[?]:
| This is the third bill of our Counter-government plan. We will propose a serie of proposals in contraposition with the polices of the current government. The particularity of these proposals is their moderacy: they don't reflect only the communist sensibilities, but also the different ones of the parties with wich we want to form a new government of coalition. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 16
Current: 18
Proposed: 17
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Current: Education is entirely private and schools run on a for-profit basis.
Proposed: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Pre-school education.
Old value:: The government leaves the pre-school education policy to local governments.
Current: The government leaves development of nurseries to the private sector.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nursery and pre-school educational centres.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Current: The government does not subsidize tuition, students must pay for higher education themselves. This does not include scholarship programs.
Proposed: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Proposed: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government leaves the development and funding of vocational schools and colleges up to local governments.
Current: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:19:19, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Movimento Federalista Istaliano - I.p.I. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Absolutely not thanks art. 2 |
| Date | 23:20:57, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Movimento Federalista Istaliano - I.p.I. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | errata en corregi art 4 |
| Date | 23:22:21, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Well, you just classified yourself as rightist. We're happy to not include you in our government projects. Good luck! |
| Date | 23:25:03, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Movimento Federalista Istaliano - I.p.I. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | No we are progressivist, and in a local level we act as progressivism, but at national we want to devolve on local, as most possible. And we can't support a party what explains the willingness of a dictatorship (of ant type of dictatorship) what is the antithesis of democracy |
| Date | 23:26:09, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Movimento Federalista Istaliano - I.p.I. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | I talked for art. 3 and 6, the number of articles is changed when i posted the last errata en corregi... |
| Date | 23:34:00, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | I'm happy to see how you are prepared when talking about democracy. And we agree with you: we are the expression of a new democracy with is called Dictatorship of the proletariat, workers who are the biggest part of our country. While you call yourselves democratic but are expression of a Dictatorship of the few, the less democratic thing existing on planet earth. Anyway, we respect your federalist positions. |
| Date | 23:39:13, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Adriano Manfrin, ULD Drputy Chairperson So... You are saying that dictatorships are democratic? |
| Date | 23:43:50, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Democracy doesn't exist, there are just different kinds of dictatorship. The communists stand for the dictatorship of the people, the only one which should exist. All other form of government are just a joke, and if through elections we will arrive to conquer the 51% of the votes, we wouldn't still have power in our hands; probably, foreign imperialism will crush our power, maybe with your help. |
| Date | 23:59:34, February 27, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Adriano Manfrin, ULD Deputy Chairperson Oh, okay, yeah. The spoopy spooky foreign banks... Frankly, all dictatorships are dictatorships of some people, as they are introduced by people. Obviously, you, as radical leftists, don't understand that, however I assure you that a sign of our democracy is the fact that the interest of the widest group of Istalian citizens, people of the center, is represented by us, the republicans, greens or the radicals. It seems as if you consider it a joke just because for the last fourteen years you lot have failed to grab the majority vote share,which is more of a joke in itself as you should have expected that exact result from our society after your... Experiments. |
| Date | 00:09:16, February 28, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Expertiments? You grab in your hands the power of every media, and by them you made look as your successes what was made possible thanks to our government. The parties in opposition are gaining more conseses, and the day is near were Istalians will again see the truth and who can do the best for their life. |
| Date | 08:51:02, February 28, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Adriano Manfrin: They already saw it. Between twelve and fifteen years ago. |
| Date | 11:19:33, February 28, 2018 CET | From | Fronte Democratico - P.L. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 04/4355 (#3 Counter-government proposals) Education reform |
| Message | Beatrice Grande, whip of the PLI: We believe that article 1 must be re writed and raise the limit to 18 years old. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 181 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 305 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 19 |
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