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Bill: National Anthem Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kalistani Workers Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4367
Description[?]:
Recognizing that under current law children at the commencement of school aren't required to sing the national anthem but are required to show respect while it is being played, and seeing as how this is a clear violation of children's freedom of speech and rights, this bill reforms the law and simply stipulates that children aren't required to sing the national anthem or show respect when it's played. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are not made to sing the national anthem, but are required to show respect when it is played at the commencement of school each day.
Current: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Proposed: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:03:12, March 22, 2018 CET | From | National Workers Union | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | We'll support it. |
Date | 15:49:17, March 22, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | We're against. |
Date | 16:36:12, March 22, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of the URK (LURK) | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | "Children's freedom of speech and rights". Sorry, rebellious 16-year-old Johnny is still expected to show respect for the country. We negate. Children do, of course, have rights; but at the end of the day, they're kids. They DON'T have the same rights as adults because they don't have the same RESPONSIBILITIES as adults. |
Date | 01:58:26, March 23, 2018 CET | From | Kalistani Workers Party | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | LURK, that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. How the hell can you say that kids don't have the same rights as adults when LEGALLY they do? "Responsibilities" or whatever the hell you were talking about don't matter because the Kalistani constitution gives equal rights to everybody. The current law is a violation of children's free speech rights, and so we're trying to abolish it. It doesn't have anything to do with edgy teens or anything, it's about making sure that the rule of law is enforced fairly. How can you call yourself liberals when you don't even support the liberty of our children? |
Date | 15:28:13, March 23, 2018 CET | From | National Workers Union | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | What is the point of sayingg the Kalistani people have Freedom of Speech when they can only utilize when it's convenient for the ruling party? |
Date | 16:07:10, March 23, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | Some more stupid statements from the KWP. Let me ask you one question: You said that children legally have ALL the rights of adults, but are they allowed to vote or drive? Now before you say driving and voting are different from honoring our nation and all the people who died for it, well, you're right. But that still doesn't change the fact that men and women died for our flag, for our anthem, for our liberty, and for Kalistan, and you wish to allow undeveloped, rebellious children to sit down rather than honour the THOUSANDS of people who died for this nation and its people. And, anyway, this doesn't violate free speech. It doesn't stop people from saying what they want. It doesn't stop people from talking about their opinions. This law makes sure children show some goddamned respect for the people who died for them to have their rights and the nation which gives them these rights. |
Date | 16:18:25, March 23, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | NWU, what the hell do you mean by that? This has nothing to do with "political convenience." Currently, nobody in the nation is stripped of their Freedom of Speech by the government. The current law makes children simply stand in respect for our nation during the national anthem. |
Date | 02:36:09, March 24, 2018 CET | From | Kalistani Workers Party | To | Debating the National Anthem Reform Act |
Message | Clearly the NCP doesn't even realize what freedom of speech is. Compelling somebody to perform an action is considered a violation of somebody's freedom of expression, similar to their freedom of speech. And also, children driving isn't a right, and children voting is a right that kicks in at age 18. Children being able to express themselves and say whatever the hell they want is a right that is given at birth, so to say that it is the same as driving or voting shows that you clearly don't understand the topic at hand. This isn't an issue of some bullshit nationalism, it's an issue of the state violating someone's basic rights, and as a party that cares about people's rights, we will always defend somebody's ability to speak and do what they want if it's protected by our constitution. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 335 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 415 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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