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Bill: Lex Oppidia de Capitis Poena

Details

Submitted by[?]: Factio Republicana Socialistica

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 4373

Description[?]:

Oppidian Law on Capital Punishment

Senators,

Our justice system is broken. Crimes are either not punished sufficiently or not at all, and several of the most egregious crimes receive only the most underwhelming of punishments. We do not believe this to be just. Some crimes should receive no lesser punishment than death, as the most unrepentant and violent criminals willingly proclaim themselves unworthy of life. Instead of spending taxpayer money on keeping these vile individuals alive, they must be cut out from our midst to face their Creator and answer to their crimes. The Republican Party shall introduce the death penalty for the worst crimes imaginable, terrorism, treason, and crimes against mankind, and will remove the unjust treaty restrictions on the Republic's ability to carry out her own justice.

Postumus Oppidius Hortensius
Senator

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:04:05, April 03, 2018 CET
FromClara Aurora - COSIRA
ToDebating the Lex Oppidia de Capitis Poena
MessageSenators, I can't believe that we have to discuss the implementation of death penalty in our legal system, and I am truly dissapointed with the result. Apart from that, the act of trying to remove Selucia from the Treaty of the Objetives of the Century already gives and idea that this will continue into more radical laws, that will degrade even more the status of our nation into a barbaric one.

Talking about death penalty:

Sooner or later, innocent people will get killed, because of mistakes or flaws in the justice system.

Witnesses, (where they are part of the process), prosecutors and jurors can all make mistakes. When this is coupled with flaws in the system it is inevitable that innocent people will be convicted of crimes. Where capital punishment is used such mistakes cannot be put right.

The death penalty legitimizes an irreversible act of violence by the state and will inevitably claim innocent victims. As long as human justice remains fallible, the risk of executing the innocent can never be eliminated.

Plus, to take a life when a life has been lost is revenge, it is not justice.

Capital punishment may brutalise society in a different and even more fundamental way, one that has implications for the state's relationship with all citizens.

Civilised societies shall not tolerate torture, even if it can be shown that torture may deter, or produce other good effects, it is inappropriate for a modern civilised society to respond to even the most dreadful crimes.

Capital punishment is still a media circus, receiving great publicity, so that the public are well aware of what is being done on their behalf.

Date12:26:50, April 04, 2018 CET
FromFactio Republicana Socialistica
ToDebating the Lex Oppidia de Capitis Poena
MessageSenators,

The death penalty is not practical. The death penalty is just. Some people make themselves unworthy of life and deserving of death through their own actions. A civilized society is a just society, and a just society punishes transgressions. If we fear flaws in the justice system the appropriate response is a better justice system, not less justice. Death is indeed irreversible, but so are decades spent in prison. That does not stop us from providing appropriate prison sentences, even at the risk of punishing the innocent.

We are not calling for revenge, we are calling for justice. It is not only murderers that make themselves unworthy of life, but torturers, rapists, terrorists, and traitors must all receive their just punishment, which for many is death. Such people brutalize society far more than a suitable punishment applied under the rule of law ever can.

Postumus Oppidius Hortensius
Senator

Date17:38:44, April 04, 2018 CET
FromFactio Renatus Seluciana
ToDebating the Lex Oppidia de Capitis Poena
MessageWe will accept the bill in its current state, but not anymore extreme.

Date22:36:06, April 04, 2018 CET
FromClara Aurora - COSIRA
ToDebating the Lex Oppidia de Capitis Poena
MessagePartis Imperialis has voted in favour of something that now will be almost impossible to stop

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Voting

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Total Seats: 474

no
  

Total Seats: 276

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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