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Bill: Ban on torture and the death penalty.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Est Pars Humanitatis et Socialismus
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4381
Description[?]:
| It is a shame that Selucia allows cruel and inhumane forms of punishment, we propose an immidiate ban. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Legality of judicial physical punishment
Old value:: Judicial corporal punishment (eg. caning or flogging) is legal.
Current: Judicial corporal punishment that causes permanent injury (eg. mutilation) is legal.
Proposed: All forms of physical punishment are illegal.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:41:22, April 19, 2018 CET | From | Legio Nationalis | To | Debating the Ban on torture and the death penalty. |
| Message | Senators, In many instances we find that torture, corporal punishment, and the death penalty have their essential uses in maintaining the security of the Selucian state. If anything, we should show less mercy to those who dare break out laws - not more. Martinus Varro Consul |
| Date | 09:25:16, April 20, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Ban on torture and the death penalty. |
| Message | Senators, As the one who introduced the bill that incorporated corporal punishment in our legal system I remain thoroughly opposed to this attempt at subverting our laws. I recommend that the Party for Humanity and Socialism read the text of the Oppidian Law on Punishments (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=563675). They will see that, while it appears barbaric to have caning as a punishment for crime, the law is explicit in making caning purely voluntary. The Republican Party continues to support this system because we firmly believe that it is far more humane and tolerant than filling our prisons with petty criminals and depriving them of liberty against their will. We find incarceration to be cruel and a form of torture, and so do hundreds of thousands of Selucians who, since the adoption of corporal punishment, have preferred to be caned rather than spend months or years in prison. As for the death penalty, we are committed to the idea that some people make themselves unworthy of life through their own actions. Torturers, rapists, and murderers deserve the guillotine. We do however support the elimination of torture. It is a form of arbitrary domination that does not result in any practical or moral benefit for anyone. Postumus Oppidius Hortensius Caesar |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 395 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 355 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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