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Bill: OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Hutori

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 4386

Description[?]:

Ministry of Defence Budget: 105,000,000,000 (One Hundred Five Billion Hutorian Lira)

Budget Items:
Office of the Minister of Defence

Office of the Inspector General

Hutorian High Command
- Hutorian Royal Army
- Royal Hutorian Navy
- Royal Hutorian Air Force
- Hutorian Royal Marine Corps
- Royal Hutorian Coast Guard

Defence Industry Crown Corporations - Unknown Budget

Issues: No known budget for operating Crown Corporations, nor orders to make up loss. No budgetary triggers for delivering of funds to Service Branches of the Armed Forces. No known large expenditures

AG Report: Defence Ministry overbloated. Without deployments, acquisitions, exercises and others, there no need for the budget, beyond unknown expenditures for the State run Defence Companies, though without orders, its unknown how they are getting their money back. Advising extreme deep audit.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:53:03, April 26, 2018 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageHonorable Members of Parliament

I hereby submit my report on the Budget of the Ministry of Defence. I not only open questions, but encourage them; the Ministry of Defence is one Ministry I'm significantly concerned with.

Natalie LaChance
Auditor General of the Commonwealth

Date21:09:53, April 26, 2018 CET
From Hutori Party
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageMs Auditor General,

Seeing as successive governments have disregarded where our defense budget is actually spent, I would like to actually figure out exactly how much money is needed to properly run our armed forces. In your experience, how much is required to run the day to day operations of a military in a nation like Hutori?

Alex Murphy
Minister of Finance

Date21:27:39, April 26, 2018 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageMr. Minister

I'm not a Defence expert, so I would advise pushing that question to the Minister of Defence, or the Chief of the Defence Staff. The biggest problem is that numbers are diluted by the immense costs of the State run Defence Companies. There is a Crown Corporation for each Service Branch, as monopolies are forbidden under Hutorian law. A minimum of 40 Billion HLR would be required to maintain day to day operations, and even that will he with cuts to personnel and equipment.

Natalie LaChance
Auditor General of the Commonwealth

Date21:30:39, April 26, 2018 CET
From Hutori Party
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageMs Auditor General,

I thank you for that response. I will be speaking with the Minister and Chief of Defense Staff about this and will look to see what cuts can be made and what changes can be made.

Alex Murphy
Minister of Finance

Date23:51:13, April 26, 2018 CET
From New Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageMs Auditor General,

What impact would it have on the budget if we were to eliminate or reduce or chemical, nuclear, and biological weapons stockpiles?

Constance Okafor,
Assistant Professor of Economics, Williams University
Director of the Center for Strategic Management
New Liberal Party Candidate for St. Anselm West


Date04:24:20, April 29, 2018 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageProfessor Okafor

I can't say definitively. As far as I'm aware Hutori doesn't have chemical weapon stockpiles in the slightest; while the research exists we hold no weapons. Further we hold no biological weapons outside of Fort Brett Hawkins which are purely for research purposes. What minimal access I was allowed Fort Brett Hawkins runs on a fraction of the Defence Department's budget and receives significant funding from the Ministries of Health, Internal Affairs and Science & Technology.

On the matter of the nuclear weapon stockpile I can't comment. Defence department policy forbids them from stating how many they have, or even whether they have them. Will we find saving from phasing them out? Yes, will they be significant? That I can't say.

The biggest drain on the budget is the Crown Corporations that draw their budgets directly from the Ministry of Defence and the Military itself. Current Defence spending isn't sustainable; either the Defence Department has to be moderately downsized or privatized, or the Military itself has to be downsized and streamlined, at current spending because of current government policy, we can't have it both ways.

Natalie LaChance
Auditor General of the Commonwealth

Date04:24:21, April 29, 2018 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageProfessor Okafor

I can't say definitively. As far as I'm aware Hutori doesn't have chemical weapon stockpiles in the slightest; while the research exists we hold no weapons. Further we hold no biological weapons outside of Fort Brett Hawkins which are purely for research purposes. What minimal access I was allowed Fort Brett Hawkins runs on a fraction of the Defence Department's budget and receives significant funding from the Ministries of Health, Internal Affairs and Science & Technology.

On the matter of the nuclear weapon stockpile I can't comment. Defence department policy forbids them from stating how many they have, or even whether they have them. Will we find saving from phasing them out? Yes, will they be significant? That I can't say.

The biggest drain on the budget is the Crown Corporations that draw their budgets directly from the Ministry of Defence and the Military itself. Current Defence spending isn't sustainable; either the Defence Department has to be moderately downsized or privatized, or the Military itself has to be downsized and streamlined, at current spending because of current government policy, we can't have it both ways.

Natalie LaChance
Auditor General of the Commonwealth

Date14:39:40, April 29, 2018 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the OOC/RP: Auditor General Report; Ministry of Defence Budget Audit Report
MessageMs Auditor General,

May I ask, would there be any savings by merging the Navy and Coast Guard together under the one hierarchy, reducing the double up of command?

David Judd
Leader of the Reform Party

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