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Bill: Reform Party Bill 31 - Conscientious Objection Restriction
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Hutori
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4392
Description[?]:
| Ensuring citizens can't shirk their service to their country, meanwhile providing a non-combatant alternative |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: Conscientious objectors are exempted.
Current: Conscientious objectors can be exempted, but only on religious grounds.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:17:59, May 11, 2018 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Reform Party Bill 31 - Conscientious Objection Restriction |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I believe all citizens in a time of war should be required to provide some form of assistance to our Armed Forces. We cannot have traitors back home who would not participate in the war effort, which in an extremely serious world war, might require every last man and woman. However that being said, I recognise that some may have personal reasons against participating in combatant roles. This bill will provide that option for our citizens, while ensuring the armed forces can utilise all manpower needed. Tarina Rowland MP for Arana South Defence Spokesperson for the National Reform Party |
| Date | 14:32:28, May 11, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Reform Party Bill 31 - Conscientious Objection Restriction |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Point of clarification - is it the National Reform Party's intent to include civil service roles as part of this bill? Do "non-combatanat" roles apply only to military non-combatant roles or will appointments in the foreign service or infrastructure and transportation ministry also be covered by this bill? Russell Selwyn MP for Sutton East Parliamentary Leader of the New Liberals |
| Date | 14:44:25, May 11, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Reform Party Bill 31 - Conscientious Objection Restriction |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The purpose of his bill relates to military service and therefore we are including non-combatant roles within the military. However this would extend to positions within the foreign service and other ministries that in times of war, would fall within the definitions of "military operations". This could extend to working in factories producing ammunitions, working in security at embassies etc. Overall we wish to give people the option on how they serve their nation, however still requiring they give something back to the country in time of need. Tarina Rowland MP for Arana South Defence Spokesperson for the National Reform Party |
| Date | 14:54:47, May 11, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Reform Party Bill 31 - Conscientious Objection Restriction |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We will support this bill as long as conscientious objectors are able to serve their country in ways that are not directly within the military chain of command. It is not public service to which conscientious objectors object, it is military service. As the MP for Arana South has assured the me personally that placements in the foreign and other non-defence ministries are part of this bill, I have asked my compatriots in the New Liberal party to vote for it - as I will. Pavel Jucewicz MP for Aylesbury South Government Defence Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 292 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 106 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 7 |
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