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Bill: Democratic Workers' Councils Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: All Types Of Workers Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2199

Description[?]:

Is a bill the gives all worker the right to build Democratic Workers' Councils which will enable them to run their workplace in a democratic fashion.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:14:17, March 09, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageThis bill protects the rights of all worker to strike and build Democratic Workers' Councils

Date22:02:02, March 09, 2006 CET
FromGreen Socialists
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageCan you explain what exactly a Democratic Workers' Council is/does?

Date22:14:45, March 09, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageHere is the definition from wikipedia

A workers' council is a council, or deliberative body, composed of working class or proletarian members. While the term may include instances where employers negotiate with workers, or workers deliberate without power, the most common use of the term is to describe self-governing workers without bosses.

Workers' councils have arisen repeatedly through modern history with a variety of names. Notable instances include the Soviet Union during 1917, where the councils were called "soviets", Germany during 1918, Spain during 1936, Hungary during 1956, France during 1968, Chile in 1973 (cordones), and Iran during 1978-1979 (shoras).

The key features of a workers' council include the phenomenon that a single place of work, such as a factory, school, or farm, is controlled collectively by the workers of that workplace. There is no manager, or the manager is directly under the control of the workers' council, and the composition of the workers council is determined by the workers who comprise it.
Here is the link

Date22:15:13, March 09, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageLink here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_council

Date23:00:53, March 09, 2006 CET
FromGreen Socialists
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageI agree with the second proposal, but not the first. Shouldn't workers only strike for good reason?

Date23:20:33, March 09, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageRight but thats not what the proposal is about.
The first proposal ensure that workers go on strike without fear of being fired

Date01:33:45, March 10, 2006 CET
FromAntiNeoCon Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
Messagei am with GS

Date02:19:55, March 10, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageRead the first proposal it ensures that worker who go on strike dont get fire thats it.

Here is a example lets say a worker goes on strike for higher wage and a good pension now lets say the boss doesnt
like its a fires him or her now what.
How do you prevent that from happening you vote yes for the bill.

The bill prevents a boss from firing someone for striking.

Date03:49:26, March 10, 2006 CET
FromAntiNeoCon Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
Messageour workers have the strike protection they need as is.

Date04:26:12, March 10, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageWhat is define as reasonble.
If a worker goes on strike to keep their pensions and to prevent cut to their wages and the bosses deem it unreasonable then they are allow to fire them.

Is that even reasonable.

Date04:52:41, March 10, 2006 CET
FromSocialist Ecology Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageThe state tells industry what is acceptable and what is not a acceptable, the state knows what is best for industry and the workers which it empolys.

Date07:14:51, March 10, 2006 CET
FromGreen Socialists
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageCourts would decide whether a strike is illegal or not. Some industries vital to Quanzari's health and security (such as the power industry and hospitals) must remain in operation. In the United States late 1800's-late 1900's, a coal mining company went on strike, which led to thousands of northeastern families without heat or power. We must find a balance between worker's rights, and citizen's needs.

Date16:35:09, March 10, 2006 CET
FromWhigs
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageThe state must not interefere more than necessary. Workers have every right to go on strike. However, businesses have every right to fire those who do.

I will not vote for either proposal.

Date00:15:51, March 11, 2006 CET
FromAll Types Of Workers Party
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils Act
MessageI will compromise and remove the first acticle then.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 288

no
    

Total Seats: 385

abstain
 

Total Seats: 77


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