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Bill: Killing animals is illegal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ecosocialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4398
Description[?]:
| In the current Lodamun law, killing animals is unfortunately enough allowed. The Ecosocialist Party does believe that every murder on animals is illegal when there is no good reason to kill it. This legislation does not contain killing insects or vermin. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to kill animals.
Old value:: Killing animals is legal but regulated.
Current: Killing animals is legal but regulated.
Proposed: Killing animals is illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:37:55, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Party For Liberation of the People | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | I'd rather see that killing for no purpose should be illegal. For food should not be illegal, it forces people to not eat meat, which im against. |
| Date | 18:42:18, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Socialist Party | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr speaker, While we agree on the sentiment of the Ecosocialist party on the difficult question whether to kill animals. However, in some cases the killing of animals might be necessary, as we might need to kill animals to relieve them out of their misery, to protect population centers or to keep sustainable populations in nature reserves. Therefore we will not support the law change proposed by the Ecosocialist party. |
| Date | 18:50:35, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Ecosocialist Party | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, As formulated in the description, the new law says it will be illegal to kill animals when there is no good reason to kill them. To relieve animals out of their misery is a good reason to do, though. |
| Date | 20:34:07, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Socialist Party | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, while the Ecosocialist party does explain as such, the proposed law change would not make such exceptions. Therefore, while I again say that I agree with the sentiment, I must vote against this bill |
| Date | 20:57:28, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Lodamun Labour Party | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, While the LLP is against cruelty against animals, the LLP see's a total ban on killing animals as too excessive. Killing animals for food, to contain a population or to put them out of their misery are some examples in which the killing of an animal can be justified. The current proposal seems to include a option when killing is justified, but hasn't clarified this. For this reason the LLP has to vote against this bill. |
| Date | 21:28:01, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Animal Liberation Front | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Animal Liberation Front wholeheartedly supports the bill as put forth by the Ecosocialist party. Those who oppose the bill I will ask the following questions: "For how long will we condone the murder of our fellow citizens? When will freedom be bestowed upon them? Where is the pride our nation once held high for all its inhabitants?" May the spirits of life guide you on your vote. |
| Date | 21:37:06, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Liberal Party cannot vote for this bill considering it seriously infringes on many people’s livelihoods. Perchance incentives should be given to the people to consume less meat, but outlawing the regulated and professionalized industry that provides millions of people with jobs is not something we stand for. |
| Date | 23:41:47, May 24, 2018 CET | From | Lodamese Democratic Progressive Party | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The New Green Party shares the sentiments that killing animals for no good reason shouldn't be tolerated. However, the proposed change amounts to a total ban on killing of animals, which would extend to even killing for food. We believe the current laws are sufficient as they regulate this policy to the point that this bill is proposed. We currently do not allow the killing of animals outside necessity. Therefore, we vote against this proposal. Howard Moray, Lodamun Minister of Environment and Tourism |
| Date | 11:43:41, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Animal Liberation Front | To | Debating the Killing animals is illegal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The New Green Party of Lodamun shows its true colors with this statement. Their shallow ecology once again becomes clear. Would it be ok to raise a child in proper condition and slaughter it for food? How can we defend the barbaric ritual of killing for our own satisfaction with countless alternatives readily available. Does a lion in the wild kill because he likes the taste? No, he knows no other way, he is pure in his intentions to cause no harm to his fellow spirits, but his hunger drives him to cruelty. We must show that we have a deeper understanding and respect for mother nature than to condone murder for our pleasure. The cows, chickens and pigs are our brothers and sisters, maybe not in terms of our development, but definitely by their existence. Do they not have the same soul? Feel the same pain? As a nation we can regain our connection with our brothers and sisters. This bill is a step forward on the long road towards that. Abraham Rudyard Party Leader of the Animal Liberation Front |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 599 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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