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Bill: Act to Ensure Government Majority
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4400
Description[?]:
| Repeat of proposal that failed last cycle. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 300
Current: 256
Proposed: 301
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:26:15, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Green Progressive Alliance [PAG] | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | Mss. President, We disagree with the NLP on this. A government that has a majority in Parliament currently needs 151 out of 300 seats. We don't see the added value of adding one more seat, if it's already clear when a government has a majority. If parties get 150 out of 300 seats for a proposal, it simply won't be adopted because a majority isn't there. |
| Date | 10:32:41, May 28, 2018 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | GPA, This is primarily just a formalization of the prior stated, and institutionalize the formation of coalitions - if there is a 150-150 split, for example, that means no coalitions can be made, and the prior ruling coalition would be, without merit, placed as the ruling majority for no reason other than being the prior one. We believe that such a situation, however unlikely, would violate the mandate of the people, and be undemocratic in nature, violating a core principle of our nation. |
| Date | 14:40:52, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Green Progressive Alliance [PAG] | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | NLP, Your reasoning is solid. We can agree after consideration and switched our vote to yes. |
| Date | 17:05:16, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | We again raise concerns about inequities in representation. Each of our five regions currently has roughly equivalent populations and 60 seats in the legislature. This bill will award an additional seat to one of the regions giving them more voting power than the other four regions. It makes more sense to choose an odd number that is divisible by five to ensure that the voting power of people in each region remains the same. Laura Esposito PCP Parliamentary Spokesperson |
| Date | 05:58:09, May 29, 2018 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | The difference between the largest and smallest states in population is over 67,000, which is the number of people/seat for the Federal Assembly. The extra seat could therefore be a non-direct vote seat, but rather represent the collective view of the nation - the national seat. |
| Date | 06:33:59, May 29, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | There are not 67,000 people/seat in the Federal Assembly. There are roughly 332,000 people/seat. Salnaeta will be awarded this extra seat that NLP is creating and this creates objectively worse equity in representation than our current system. The people of Salnaeta will be significantly overrepresented in Parliament, while the people of Marligantos will be significantly underrepresented. Current System: The ideal people/seat ratio: 331,933.14 (99,579,943 voters/300 seats) Salnaeta: 333,131.91 people/seat (DEVIATION: +1,198.77) Marligantos: 333,016.98 people/seat (DEVIATION: +1,083.84) North Vintalli: 332,665.68 people/seat (DEVIATION: +732.54) Pernessia: 330,544.15 people/seat (DEVIATION: -1,388.99) South Vintalli: 330,306.98 people/seat (DEVIATION: -1,626.16) MOST UNDERREPRESENTED: South Vintalli MOST OVERREPRESENTED: Salnaeta ABS VAL OF MAXIMUM DEVIATION + MINIMUM DEVIATION: 2,824.93 NLP Proposal: The ideal people/seat ratio: 330,830.37 (99,579,943 voters/301 seats) Salnaeta: 327,670.73 people/seat (DEVIATION: -3,159.64) Marligantos: 333,016.98 people/seat (DEVIATION: +2,186.61) North Vintalli: 332,665.68 people/seat (DEVIATION: +1,835.31) Pernessia: 330,544.15 people/seat (DEVIATION: -286.22) South Vintalli: 330,306.98 people/seat (DEVIATION: -523.39) MOST UNDERREPRESENTED: Marligantos MOST OVERREPRESENTED: Salnaeta ABS VAL OF MAXIMUM DEVIATION + MINIMUM DEVIATION: 5,346.25 The NLP proposal creates a much larger difference between the most overrepresented and underrepresented region than the current system. |
| Date | 07:02:41, May 29, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | PCP should clarify - we ask not for maintenance of the current legislature size. We recognize that other parties see a compelling government interest to prevent the possibility of ties from occurring by choosing an odd number of seats. However, we argue that 301 seats is not the right odd number to choose. 325 seats would produce a smaller difference in the people/seat ratio for the most overrepresented and underrepresented regions creating more equitable representation for our country's people. Laura Esposito PCP Parliamentary Spokesperson |
| Date | 07:06:24, May 29, 2018 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | Incorrect! We are calling for a national seat, that shall represent the national vote. It shall not go to any state specifically, but rather be representative of the votes across all states. (OOC: This is a lot of RP, obviously, but the seat is supposed to be decided by the results of th 300 seats, and then, PR-style, decided upon through parties allying with their parts of the seat. Hence, national seat) Hence, the deviation regionally would not change from the current system, but we will ensure a majority. OOCs: - Whoops on the math on my part, I, for some reason, decided to set pop to 20 mil. - The deviation calculations are wrong, as Mean Absolute Deviation requires the division by population as well - MAD = (summation of deviations)/N, where N = population, so the larger numbers presented by the PCP are deceptive in nature. - Did not expect statistics calculations in a politics game lol - PCP, you work in stats irl? |
| Date | 07:07:07, May 29, 2018 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | We would vote in favor of 325, but 301 is an immediate fix to the issue. |
| Date | 07:28:58, May 29, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | OOC: 1) I get what you're saying on the national seat, but the game mechanics won't allow this. They're just going to give it to Salnaeta. If we could have a national seat that'd be awesome though! 2) You're right on the deviation calculations. The numbers are "enhanced" by the slightly deceptive nature of these calculations lol, but still statistically speaking, 301 does create more inequity than 325 assuming a "national seat" is impossible under game mechanics. 3) Haha yeah politics games and stats aren't exactly a common combination lol. I don't work stats irl, but I took a class on congressional apportionment and redistricting last semester. Learned about the different methods (Jefferson, Hamilton. Webster Dean, Hill) and some of the stats behind them. IC: PCP will vote in favor of the 301-seat immediate fix, but we do plan to introduce a 325-seat bill in the near future. Laura Esposito PCP Parliamentary Spokesperson |
| Date | 07:39:26, May 29, 2018 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Act to Ensure Government Majority |
| Message | OOC: 1&2) I know! Previously, though, we just went with the RP rather than game mechanics cause that was more fun, but those were old parties - we might want to make a decision on something like that given the new parties etc though! 2&3) lol You made me take out my math textbook for the formula during summer! Cool and awesome to see math and politics mix though - even if that comes at my expense. And yeah, extent is different, but there is still inequality, just wanted an immediate fix cause even numbers of parliament seats grinds my gears. IC: We are glad that the PCP can come to an agreement on this, and should be assured that the NLP will assist in the passing of the 325-seat act. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 300 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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