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Bill: Iura Labor
Details
Submitted by[?]: Factio Aurorianus
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4402
Description[?]:
| Bill on the rights of labor. A joint bill by the Factio Aurorianus and Factio Republicana |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Government approval is needed before strikers can be fired.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards labor unions.
Old value:: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Current: Trade unions may exist and all workers must have membership in one.
Proposed: Trade unions may exist and all workers must have membership in one.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Current: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Proposed: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The workers' right to strike.
Old value:: All workers have the right to strike but certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society have to ensure a minimal service.
Current: All workers, except certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society, have the right to strike.
Proposed: All workers have the right to strike.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:49:48, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senators, We are absolutely in favor of this bill. The right to collective bargaining requires the right to stop working, otherwise it is irrelevant. Work stoppage is the single greatest tool employees have in the pursuit of their rights, without which all other rights we grant them are meaningless. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 19:51:55, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | We can't obligate workers to belong to a trade union if they don't want to. Apart from that, we support this. Severio Prenio Senator |
| Date | 20:12:16, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senators, We the Rexist Party view this a threat to the economy. Strikes result in a reduction in economic productivity, and employers should be able to fire strikers as they see fit. Albanus Claudius Midius Senator and Praetor of Cor Patriae |
| Date | 22:20:06, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senators, There is a very good reason to require all workers to belong to a trade union. By allowing employees to not contribute to the trade union we essentially encourage free-riding, given that any employee can leave the union in order to avoid paying dues and yet will reap all benefits of collective bargaining, including higher wages and health insurance. Trade unions are to the benefit of all employees, so all employees should be members of the trade unions. We would however suggest an additional amendment to cover the situation of those employees with a religious objection to union membership. In those cases it would be best if, instead of requiring them to join a union in violation of their conscience, union dues be donated to a mutually agreed charity. And of course this is not a threat to the economy. Higher wages and better health care leads to higher purchasing power which will result in more money being spent on goods and services. Trade unions play a fundamental role in securing these goals. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 22:40:13, May 28, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senator Nymphidius, Forcing someone who doesn't want to be part of a trade union to be part of one is no better then the Factio Aurorianus trying to force religion into our schools. We are absolutely and uncompromisingly against this. Albanus Claudius Midius Senator and Praetor of Cor Patriae |
| Date | 09:37:28, May 29, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senator Midius, A better analogy is with paying taxes. To make taxes purely voluntary would lead to, well, people not paying them, while they would still reap the benefits of public spending, including the defense provided by our armed forces. Same with labor union contributions. All employees benefit from them, yet not everyone does their part in supporting them. That is unfair and counterproductive. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 01:28:23, May 30, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senator Nymphidius, I don't think that you realize that labor unions tend to trend towards communism, and therefore are threats to capitalism and the Republic's security. Albanus Claudius Midius Senator |
| Date | 17:30:16, May 30, 2018 CET | From | Factio Aurorianus | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senator Midius, That is the most ridiculous argument that I've ever heard in my time in working with the Senate. You argue that labor unions tend toward communism? You clearly have not read the encyclicals and teachings of the Aurorian Patriarch, arguing that trade unions are moral and provide for the dignity of labor. My party is also anti-communist, but we do not sacrifice the rights of labor on a pyre to prevent a communist take over. The villifying of trade unionists and the under class that they represent isn't just wrong, it is an egregious attack on those who work. Fr. Ambrose |
| Date | 21:31:23, May 30, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | I applaud Father Ambrose's argumentation. I could not have said it better myself. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 12:12:33, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Father Ambrose, You are wrong. I fully agree that workers have rights, but do not think we need trade unions. Look at Dorvik. Do you want to become Dorvik? Albanus Claudius Midius Senator |
| Date | 16:38:20, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | And where did these rights come from, Senator Midius? They did not fall out of the sky and they do not come from the government's benevolence. Working people have had to fight for these rights, often against overwhelming opposition. They originated from mutual conflict and contestation, like all other rights and freedoms in a Republic. And who is it that leads the struggle for these rights? Is it not labor unions and their centuries-long fight against capital? Is it not through collective bargaining and strike action that these rights are secured? Then to say that workers have rights but do not need trade unions is to say they have no rights at all. Any right that can be arbitrarily granted can be arbitrarily taken away. And that is, ultimately, the definition of slavery. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 20:53:48, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | They came from the efforts of workers, Senator Nymphidius. Workers can still protest and get rights without unions. The elimination of unions will preserve the security of our nation from the great evil of communism. Besides, as long as my party exists, we will fight for workers rights, thus making trade unions pointless. It is not unions that lead the struggles, but men. At the very least, labor unions should be regulated by the government. Albanus Claudius Midius Senator |
| Date | 21:02:49, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Factio Aurorianus | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Senators and Selucians, I ask you which is the bigger lie? "Workers can still protest and get rights without unions" or "As long as my party exists we will fight for workers' rights"? The strawman argumentation of the Rexists to continue their trampling of the underclass would be laughable were there not so much at stake in this bill. Fr. Ambrose |
| Date | 21:50:38, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | You have the gall to call my argument a strawman, while at the same time making a strawman argument. Good job, Father, I applaud you. Additionally, you speak of the underclass like they're oppressed, yet they are not. Any man or woman can become rich if they work hard enough. That's the beauty of Capitalism, the hardworking are rewarded, and the idle are punished. Please, Father, I implore you, get an education. Albanus Claudius Midius, Senator and Praetor of Cor Patriae |
| Date | 22:23:37, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | If the rights of workers depend on the benevolence of the Rexist Party, or indeed any party outside their direct control or involvement, then they are not rights. They are nothing but the generosity of a benevolent slave master. Rights do not exist in the abstract and are not granted by others. They are won through conflict and negotiation. Rights are the result of self-assertive political actors who, when seeing injustice, take action to stop it. And the single greatest tool, in fact the only tool that the working class has at its disposal for autonomous right-seeking action is labor unions. Without them, collective bargaining does not exist. Without strikes, workers are at the mercy of the employer, with no ability to affect the circumstances of their labor or the social conditions of themselves and the community. And without them their ability to protest and gain rights is non-existent. One worker has no chance against the power of capital. The only real strength workers have is in numbers. Adeodatus Nymphidius Senator |
| Date | 22:56:41, May 31, 2018 CET | From | Novus Partis Rexisti | To | Debating the Iura Labor |
| Message | Workers are perfectly welcome to participate in the Rexist Party, in fact, we actively encourage it. We have, time and time again, fought for the rights of the Selucian people, and we will continue to do so. There is no need for unions. The Rexist Party is here to help the workers. Albanus Claudius Midius, Senator and Praetor of Cor Patriae |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 346 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 283 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 75 |
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