Main | About | Tutorial | FAQ | Links | Wiki | Forum | World News | World Map | World Ranking | Nations | Electoral Calendar | Party Organizations | Treaties |
Login | Register |
Game Time: December 5473
Next month in: 03:54:53
Server time: 12:05:06, April 23, 2024 CET
Currently online (2): GLNBei | Tayes_Gad | Record: 63 on 23:13:00, July 26, 2019 CET

We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Bill: Klavian Independence Act - 4401

Details

Submitted by[?]: Factio Phileléftheris

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 4402

Description[?]:

To celebrate the century, and the victory of Factio Philiphtheros in the election, we are restoring Klavian home rule and deserting the Luthorian Empire, which has no connection to our might land.

The nation’s name shall be changed to the Reis Publikam Klavianis (Klavian Republic.) the rule of Luthori and membership in the commonwealth will end.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:45:31, June 01, 2018 CET
FromLes Patriotes - Parti Royaliste
ToDebating the Klavian Independence Act - 4401
MessageIt is unfortunate that only now the Liberal Party reveals their true colours - those of a venomous snake. There is no such thing as Klavia, and there is definitely no such thing as the 'Luthorian Empire'. Klavia is a fiction invented by the Selucian cultural imperialists who seized power and immediately began to erase any trace of Keymon's history. Keymon always has been Keymon, and Keymon will always be Keymon. Nothing the Selucian conquerors can do will ever change
that. Klavia is not only a fiction, it is one based upon the genocide of millions of Keymonites.

If the Liberals truly wanted to 'restore home rule' they would apologise for the crimes of their ancestors, who they still considerheroes even today, and return power to the native Keymonites. Alas, they do not. They merely wish to build yet another Seluco-Cildanian supremacist regime and continue to ignore the truth behind Klavia.

Christophe Edouard, Duke of Argennes
Governor-General of Alduria

Date03:35:36, June 01, 2018 CET
From Factio Phileléftheris
ToDebating the Klavian Independence Act - 4401
MessageAside from the presumptuousness and disrespectful behavior of his excellency barging in upon this session of our assembly to berate us, with no invitation, and no notification he would be coming to Klavia Okeano, nor any notification to our nation’s ambassador in Ville-de-Aldur, we object with disgust and offense taken to his cruel and slanderous characterization of the Klavian people.

These so called events which he attacks our nation for, are events against people of ancient history. It is, in fact, laughable that a member and representative of a major extant colonial empire chooses to bring up things that happened thousands of years ago. Further, it is such an outlandish waste of time and efforts that we feel bad about even bothering to venture a response. If it will please your excellency, please refrain from meddling in our affairs without requesting first to do so, or recieving our government’s invitation. It is a major disrespect.


Lukullus Kalpurnius
Governor-General Elect

Date04:16:28, June 01, 2018 CET
FromLes Patriotes - Parti Royaliste
ToDebating the Klavian Independence Act - 4401
MessageI have never stood foot in ‘Klavia Okeano’. While I have visited the beautiful isle of Keymon plenty of times, this however is unfortunately not an occasion on which I am visiting Keymon in person. Slander is spoken, libel is written. Libel is also by definition untrue. It is hardly cruel to point out the lack of acknowledgement among the Seluco-Cildanian population of Keymon for their ancestors crimes.

Events that happened thousands of years ago in fact took place mere centuries ago. Genocide might once have been forgotten after a few generations, but when you can truly hear your ancestors plead for their lives to the ancestors of the unrepentant it is another matter entirely. To call the Commonwealth a colonial empire is itself laughable.

The only disrespect is that of your government towards those whose misery you even today benefit from.

Christophe Edouard, Duke of Argennes
Governor-General of Alduria


Date06:52:06, June 01, 2018 CET
From Factio Phileléftheris
ToDebating the Klavian Independence Act - 4401
MessageThe Duke of Argennes is making an extremely unwelcoming incursion on our sovereignity and the functioning of what is at this time the National Parliament of Keymon. His Excellency would be better served to make up a press release or write a letter to the editor at some publication, yet he does this, intruding upon legislative debate upon the floor without any invitation or permission to do so from the government of the ‘Commonwealth’ of Keymon. This is just further demonstration of how weak the forms of governance are, thst we are under, as part of this so-called Commonwealth.

The Luthoran Cesaropapist regime is not welcome in Klavia Okéano. This has been made clear by my triumph and my party’s triumph in the elections, against the pro-Commonwealth Luthorian puppet party. Your denial that the Luthorian Commonwealth is a colonial empire is totally laughable. His excellency rather had this Luthorian monarch even, then an Aldurian monarch, who his party, and he, worked to displace and exile. It is of interest to us, that your excellency is more favorable to Luthorian rule than even most Luthorian leaders.

Not only is his tendency bizarre,, as many Luthorians are indifferent to us commonwealth states, but it is also disheartening. Its disheartening that he does all he can to fight with the new, democraticaly elected government of another state and meddle in their affairs.

Date16:06:54, June 01, 2018 CET
FromLes Patriotes - Parti Royaliste
ToDebating the Klavian Independence Act - 4401
MessageThe conquerors of Keymon did not care much for unwelcome intrusions on sovereignty. If anything, this is a duty of the Commonwealth - a duty to ensure that citizens of the Commonwealth have their rights protected. The Liberal Party has stopped even trying to deny the genocide that took place. Some progress has taken place, at least.

There is no "Luthorian Commonwealth". The Commonwealth is a union of democratic nations sharing a common and purely ceremonial monarch. Alduria, Hutori, Keymon, Luthori, and Mordusia are all equal members of the Commonwealth. Paul Charbonette was no Aldurian monarch, he was a pretender who merely invented a relation to the King-Emperor and even in his own fantasy was an illegitimate monarch. I, unfortunately, had no part in removing the pretender from the throne.

Christophe Edouard, Duke of Argennes
Governor-General of Alduria

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 118

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain
       

    Total Seats: 32


    Random fact: In cases where players introduce RP laws to a nation and then leave, Moderation reserves the discretion to declare the RP laws void if they appear to have fallen into disuse. In particular, please bear in mind that a player who is inexperienced with Particracy role-play and has joined a nation as the only party there should not generally be expected to abide by RP laws implemented by previous players who have been and left.

    Random quote: "You will win, but you will not convince. You will win, because you possess more than enough brute force, but you will not convince, because to convince means to persuade. And in order to persuade you would need what you lack, reason and right in the struggle." - Miguel de Unamuno

    This page was generated with PHP
    Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
    Queries performed: 57