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Bill: General Environment Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Neo-Liberal Party of Trigunia

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2198

Description[?]:

An act for the protection of the Environs, Ecosystems and Ecology of Trigunia.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date09:06:30, March 11, 2006 CET
From Neo-Liberal Party of Trigunia
ToDebating the General Environment Act
MessageNow, the aforementioned proposals are simply for the regulation and protection of the environment within Trigunia and do not require much Government intervention therefore, it is the best possible solution to any environmental problems that may arise.

Date09:26:00, March 11, 2006 CET
From Fasces Kromina Conservatives
ToDebating the General Environment Act
MessageI like the environment and all, but I am not sure if these things are really necessary. For one, I have no idea what domesticated means, but I will see if I can look it up in a dictionary later.

PS
I am not sure by what means the government encourages replantation of trees, but if it stops at NOT PAYING people for it, and instead saying things like "doing that is a good thing", I see no reason to say no to article 4.

Date09:27:52, March 11, 2006 CET
From Fasces Kromina Conservatives
ToDebating the General Environment Act
MessageI just wanted to say that I found a definition for "domesticated" on google. So now I know what it is.

Date02:41:55, March 12, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the General Environment Act
Message"Now, the aforementioned proposals are simply for the regulation and protection of the environment within Trigunia and do not require much Government intervention"

If you want a pet cat, or gerbil, or goldfish, you have to get the government's permission. That's not much government intervention at all...

Date03:07:02, March 12, 2006 CET
From Neo-Liberal Party of Trigunia
ToDebating the General Environment Act
MessageIt's not about government permission, jeez, it's about keeping records of domesticated animals moreso anything above cat, dog, horse, cow whatever large animal so that we can enforce the owners responsibility to those animals and therefore fine them if the law is broken, for example, a dog attacks another person, who are we to blame if there is no record of the owner?

Date03:47:04, March 12, 2006 CET
From Trigunian Social-Democratic Workers
ToDebating the General Environment Act
MessageNah, you can just sue the owner of the animal who attacks you. Unless you're dead, but that would solve all your problems, wouldn't it?

Date19:19:22, March 12, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the General Environment Act
Messageif you honestly think that a compulsory registration system will never be used to prevent someone from owning a pet, then you are naive.

this is so the central planner can 'manage' who has what pets and how many [for the sake of social 'cohesion', of course]. this is so that even once the state has condescended to let you have a particular pet, they can know who you are, where you are and any other information they make you put in the form so that they have the power to deal with you as they see fit [for the good of the people as a whole, of course] when they feel like it.

perhaps you yourself do not want to control people, to make them act in accordance with your arbitrary view of the ideal state of 'social cohesion', although your desire to enforce behaviour, and ensure you have the power to assign blame as and when you think it is necessary suggests otherwise. but even if you do not want to control people, you surely must realise that the sort of people who will be attracted to the sorts of jobs where they have the power to enforce and blame will be precisely the sort of people who most want to use that power.

i don't like the idea of dogs attacking me, but i think i have a much better chance against the dog than i do against the state.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 150

no
    

Total Seats: 270

abstain
  

Total Seats: 135


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