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Bill: Ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence
Details
Submitted by[?]: De Liberale Konservative
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4415
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:25:47, June 27, 2018 CET | From | Konstitusjonpartiet | To | Debating the Ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, As a party opposed to mutual defense agreements out of principle, we cannot support this treaty as written. If the mutual defense agreements are taken out, we would be willing to reconsider this proposal. But as it stands now, we cannot support it. Kjell Koppang Statsminister Konstitusjonpartiet |
| Date | 11:06:44, June 27, 2018 CET | From | Nasjonalt Arbeiderparti 🌹 | To | Debating the Ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, By principle the constitutional party is opposed to assistance. Cildania has supported this nation in the War for the Emperor's Protection, the 1st and 2nd Hulstro-Kazulian Wars through humanitarian aid and assisted in the International Coalition against Hulstria's Nimitz regime. Our nation, determined in our drive towards international peace and security created this agreement to strengthen the bond between our two nations. It had been along request by the Cildanian government for our nations to come together on the basis of mutual defence and cooperation as a means of enhancing our security relationship. Herr Huspresident, the constitutional party is opposed to internationalism and believes that our nation deserves to step back into the time of isolationism which saw our national economy collapse due to the fact that we cannot sustain isolationism due to the fact that our nation demands specific resources which are not found in our domain. The constitutional party is opposed to development by principle. It is opposed to the sentiment of security assistance by principle. By principle Herr Huspresident, the constitutional party is opposed to our nation's development. Allow for me to as the constitutional party:- How is isolationism going to benefit this nation as it pertains to its forward development? How is abandoning our obligations to the Northern Council Treaty Organisation and our international partners. Not defending and supporting allies across the world would hurt and could possibly end those alliances and thus could put the future security of the nation in danger. However i guess this is irrelevant to the constitutional party. It refuses to recognise that decades upon decades of work building strong and powerful alliances is not a necessary factor and thus justifies their political goals. Another question for the constitutional party:- What justifies their isolationist sentiment? What justifies their intention to move this nation towards isolationism? A nation that has for its lifetime enjoyed internationalism and cooperation and dialogue with the international community must not flip the narrative and turn isolationist. Could the constitutional party explain why they believe that Kazulia should be isolationist? Could the constitutional party explain why they believe that Kazulia should abandon its allies in pursuit of "total defence". Thorbjørn Thomassen Parliamentary Floor Leader Nasjonal Arbeiderkongress |
| Date | 20:43:36, June 27, 2018 CET | From | Konstitusjonpartiet | To | Debating the Ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, I resent the scaremongering and desperate attacks levied against this movement by the floor leader of the NAK. We are not opposed to national development, nor are we an isolationist party. Instead, we favor commonsense national defense, not global defense. We favor trade and not entangling military pacts. We already maintain a free trade agreement with Cildania (http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=4097); all this proposal would do is entangle our defense forces, which should be protecting Kazulia, in the task of protecting a foreign nation half the world away! It is irresponsible for NAK to argue for this treaty, and it is insulting to this movement and all of its supporters that NAK should suggest we are anti-development. Kjell Koppang Statsminister Konstitusjonpartiet |
| Date | 22:50:43, June 27, 2018 CET | From | Nasjonalt Arbeiderparti 🌹 | To | Debating the Ratification of the Cildanian-Kazulian Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Defence |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, The sentiments of the constitutional party are of a double standard never before seen in this nation. The constitutional party views our statements as "scaremongering", the truth and reality are extremely scary to the constitutional party i guess. The constitutional party ignores the fact that our nation owes of very existence to the alliances formed in the past and hopefully those which will be reinforced), our nation is more than capable of defending our self and now as our allies have done in the past for us, we must return the favour. As our nation is a on a stronger footing than it was decades ago, we stand at the helm prepared to defend those who have defended us. The constitutional party does not intend on recognising the alliance formed in the past serve as assurance of our nation's existence. Through our nation's cooperation within the Northern Council we have worked to develop something more than a simply partnership with our allies (the same allies whose commitments and sacrifices the constitutional parties does not intend on recognising). The constitutional party debates the sentiment that our nation needs for focus on "protecting Kazulia", I ask them what, makes this nations unprotected at its current state? We have the most professional armed forces in the Northern Hemisphere, capable of doing more than simply responding to the non-existent immediate threats our nation "supposedly" faces. I ask the constitutional party: What threats are posed against Kazulia that it demands a switch from our current stance to total defence? What possible threat could warrant a reversal to years of expeditionary operations aimed at creating an environment, a neighbourhood that is safer for everyone. The members of the constitutional party feel safe because of the work done by the Kazulian Armed Forces in its drive to ensure that not only is safe but its allies and its neighbours (that is one of the many ways our nation participates in our region, as its great power, as the nation prepared to defend the interests of the region and those who have pledged to stand by us regardless of the consequences. We do not intend on buckling in our sentiment of the constitutional party being anti-development for its does not intend on recognising the fact that development does not only exist within the constraints of economic activity. All i ask is for the constitutional party to answer my questions and come forward like the adults they purport to be and recognise the sacrifices made by those who came before them and the sacrifices made by "the foreign nation half the world away" in the name of our existence. We owe that to the nations sacrifices in the name of our existences the constitutional party will never recognise and champion. Thorbjørn Thomassen Parliamentary Floor Leader Nasjonal Arbeiderkongress |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 234 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 216 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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