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Bill: (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Hutori
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4427
Description[?]:
| Banning positive discrimination as it is still discrimination. The best person suited for the position should be hired, not based on race/gender etc |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: Hiring policies are regulated by local governments.
Current: The government encourages positive discrimination and enforces it for government hiring.
Proposed: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:40:24, July 21, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The National Party clearly does not understand the policy as it is currently written. According to the CAARDI-B, Local governments are already not allowed to discriminate in hiring. Perhaps the National Party should read the law before trying to change it! I will personally direct the members of the National Party to the text of the CAARDI-B here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=575883 Peter Knox MP for Axminster South Parliamentary Leader of the New Liberals OOC: Thanks Helmut for giving me a reason to talk about CAARDI-B again! :) |
| Date | 01:44:52, July 22, 2018 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Even under the CAARDI-B Act, "positive" discrimination is allowed in educational institutions. We cannot allow any form of discrimination in this country. Dylan Jourdain MP for Fairview Prosperity Government House Leader Chairman of the Conservative Caucus |
| Date | 02:02:15, July 22, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban |
| Message | Mr Speaker As positive discrimination still is allowed in educational institutions, we still wish to ban all forms of positive discrimination. It is morally and ethically disingenuous that someone with straight A's could be passed up for entrance in to university due to not being Mashacara. Zoe Kennedy Leader of the (NP) National Party of Hutori MP for Saint John South |
| Date | 07:08:44, July 22, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The MP for St. John South is mistaken if she thinks CAARDI-B mandates that Mashacara students without straight As be admitted over students of Luthori with straight As. She's further mistaken if she thinks that CAARDI-B refers only to Mashacara students. The Bill specifically allows for positive discrimination on the basis of socio-economic status as well. Affirmative action isn't about low-income or minority students "taking the place" of Luthori students, it is about talent identification. Due to structural - and in some cases overt - racism and classism, students from low-income and underrepresented minority backgrounds don't have the same number of opportunities to thrive at the high school level. You can't spend extra hours practicing on the Bekenball pitch in the hopes of getting an athletic scholarship, or studying in the library after school for a merit scholarship, if you have to work a part-time job to help make ends meet for your family. The current policy allows admissions officers to take that into account. I think we can all agree that one's access to university shouldn't be determined by what social class one was born into! Jim O'Neill MP for Acton Gardens Minister for Education and Culture Deputy Leader of the New Liberal Party |
| Date | 07:36:27, July 22, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the (NP) National Party Bill - Positive Discrimination Ban |
| Message | Mr Speaker Firstly, I was only providing an example, I understand that the CAARDI-B covers a significantly broader group of people than just ethnic minorities. I can see that there is no way of convincing the New Liberals to support this bill, however let me point out that it is drastically unfair to Luthori students to be denied entry into university on the basis of being from a so called "privileged" background. More often than not, many of these so call privileged students also work part time due. It is racist to put any other metric other than merit alone in admissions. Zoe Kennedy MP for Saint John South Leader of the National Party |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 115 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 239 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 51 |
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