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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 4428

Details

Submitted by[?]: Bāgāzutimu/Bürgerstimme/Civic Voice

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 4429

Description[?]:

The country needs a period of stability before another round of new elections. However we are proposing an independent candidate, or a politician experienced in international relations, to head the foreign affairs department.

Peter Enkelmann
Leader of Civic Voice

ooc: this gives the foreign ministry to someone who is on the forums. I am not expecting the HDV to support the government in any other capacity, but they can RP the office with as an independent or someone from there party.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:22:30, July 24, 2018 CET
From HDV-Doumeitō
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Message(OOC: I'd be happy to do that, but are you sure you don't want to join in the cooperative storytelling that's going on on the forums yourself at some point? I've been around for years and I can tell you, at some point just playing around with the variables becomes really dull since everything you do will only get overturned eventually.)

Date15:24:00, July 24, 2018 CET
From HDV-Doumeitō
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Message(OOC: Also, how do you propose to reconcile the fact that half the Reichstag is empty and your majority is not based on an election? It's sort of absurd that things will change now only because over a third of the seats in the Diet disappeared. That's entirely unrealistic.

Maybe we can work something out to make sure it keeps making sense in-character.)

Date15:24:48, July 24, 2018 CET
From Bāgāzutimu/Bürgerstimme/Civic Voice
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Messageooc: maybe in the future, but busy at work so I wont have lots of time to do it. Happy for you to RP on my behalf though

Date15:26:32, July 24, 2018 CET
From Bāgāzutimu/Bürgerstimme/Civic Voice
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Messageooc: a majority government brings stability after last two/three years of paralysis, kinda works

Date15:36:35, July 24, 2018 CET
From HDV-Doumeitō
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Message(OOC: Yes, but nobody would win a majority under the electoral system in H&GS, since it's a proportional system. I'd prefer to at least try to reconcile the fact that it's practically impossible to win a majority under that particular electoral system (though I now realise I haven't introduced the RP Electoral Law that made it mixed-member proportional).

Maybe we could instead RP that you fell short of a majority and the incoming new leadership of the HDV (or the NDU, or both) agreed to a minority government. While you're busy at work, I'll continue the Foreign Ministry as some independent professor. I'll also publish economic statistics showing that the recovery envisioned by the Goddestreu plan has now taken off, so that a different economic policy won't hurt the economic recovery. That RP is 20 years old now, I think it's about time.

On an entirely different note, please be sure to include some Japanese and Hulstro-Showan Ministers! The nation is proudly multiethnic, so a German-only Cabinet looks slightly odd.

For the record, though, my preferred course of action under these circumstances would have been new early elections, with either them being RPed as a snap election or the previous election being retconned out of existence.)

Date15:39:46, July 24, 2018 CET
From Bāgāzutimu/Bürgerstimme/Civic Voice
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Messageooc: that's fine, good compromise. Ive already included ministers from different backgrounds in the cabinet ad have done again.

Date15:42:13, July 24, 2018 CET
From HDV-Doumeitō
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Message(OOC: For the record, the reason I was so touchy about the Goddestreu plan is that the non-functioning economic system of the game itself was replaced under the rules by periodical evaluations made by the Global RP Team (sort of Game Masters) based on RP. Basically the idea is that if a nation is RPed as making a concerted and coordinated effort at growth that succeeded, they move up the rankings. See here: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7935

I hope that concluding that particular thing will open up all options now. It was sort of an extraordinary circumstance. For example, the HDV historically favoured public healthcare and the nuclear deterrent, but having become an economic backwater, their first priority was to the public finances, so that they could spend that on education (they made sure to keep the healthcare system non-profit though).)

Date15:47:09, July 24, 2018 CET
From HDV-Doumeitō
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of August 4428
Message(OOC: Meanwhile, to prevent unpleasantness such as with the BW, I would like to draft a quick set of guidelines to how we play in Hulstria and Gao-Soto, so that we can inform newcomers. Things like "please consider joining the forums", "make sure you familiarise yourself with the RP laws, this is how they generally work", "this is the difference between OOC and IC".

I'm also considering making a post with the latest storylines, just so people can familiarise themselves with what's going on underneath the variables and mechanics.

We also need to pass an update to the cultural protocols again. We did that a while ago but I mucked up the numbers. I'll also be turning to the electoral law and stuff. Also, the Emperor of Gao-Soto is getting on a bit, so it might be time for the succession. That would require amending the HoS title variable. I hope you could vote for that OOCly, since it's not really a change of anything, just executing a law as it stands.)

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