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Bill: Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Progressive Socialist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 4430

Description[?]:

Mr. Speaker,

We currently unnecessarily inflate population growth artificially, while we as a government should not be involved in population control. Therefore we propose this law change.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date08:13:37, July 27, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr Speaker,

Some consistency from the PSP would be good. They believe the government should not be involved in population control while simultaneously being devout supporters of abortion and other policies which enact...population control.

Regina Miller
Republican leader

Date14:34:35, July 27, 2018 CET
FromProgressive Socialist Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The honorable colleague of the Republican Party confuses population control and the ability of choice. A women should always have their own say over their body. Also everyone has the choice of how many kids they want. However, it should not be the government's job to artificially inflate that number in any way.

Sophie Hill
PSP MP

Date15:07:26, July 27, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr Speaker,

The honorable colleague of the PSB seems to misunderstand what the effect of birth control has on population control.If you commit yourself to extreme birth control policies, as the PSP do, then you commit yourself to population decline, with its knock on effect on the economy and welfare provision. Societies need manageable population growth in order to fuel economic growth and the necessary funding that that provides to support the welfare state and a free health care system.

Regina Miller
Republican leader

Date15:30:50, July 27, 2018 CET
FromLodamun Labour Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The LLP believes that the Lodamese government should promote growth, this does not mean there should be laws that say people should have a certain amount of childeren. For this reason we believe it shouldn't be changed.

Aki Nishimura,
LLP MP on Health


Date15:58:55, July 27, 2018 CET
FromProgressive Socialist Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Not only does the PSP fully understand the consequences of population decline, we do not scare from it either. Yes, it might mean an eventual shrinkage of our economy, but that is allowed. We have limited resources, and there are more than enough people on Terra. The PSP is interested in the idea of negative growth and, while this is not the main reason for this law change, is a good ancillary reason for implementing this policy.

Sophie Hill
PSP MP

Date17:51:15, July 27, 2018 CET
FromConservative Democratic Union Lodamun
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr Speaker

This talk of population decline and too much people on terra from the PSP is starting to sound very scary. We would ask our colleagues from the PSP to reevaluate their policy choices.
In the meantime the CDUL will oppose this proposal.

Luca Brankic
Party leader CDUL

Date20:17:57, July 27, 2018 CET
FromProgressive Socialist Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

What is scary about our proposition. We merely want to end artificial inflation of our population. Furthermore we are realists, and see that the largest polluter of Terra are the people. We would suggest our colleague from the CDUL to read some of the papers concerning negative growth. Increasing his expertise would benefit the Presidium after all.

Sophie Hill
PSP MP

Date20:45:57, July 27, 2018 CET
FromConservative Democratic Union Lodamun
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr Speaker

With economic development comes population growth. The PSP wishes to assist countries in their development, stimulating their population growth yet talks of domestic negative population growth.
If the PSP is so worried about the population size of Terra, the minister of foreign affairs should pull out of the eastern development organization (which we will most certainly support). Instead of weaking Lodamun and its people.

And yes we always find it scary when politicians talk about people and the negative consequences they supposedly produce.

Luca Brankic
Party leader CDUL

Date22:27:47, July 27, 2018 CET
FromNational-Socialist Lodamun Workers Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We whole heartedly agree with with the PSP that people are the biggest polluters and for that reason it is of the upmost importance that Lodamun keeps growing. We are realists aswell and we forsee a future where the nations of the world will have to fight for the remaining resources. When that time comes Lodamun needs to have enough citizens to protect the nation.

John Miller
Leader of the National-Socialists

Date10:40:26, July 28, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr Speaker,

If the PSP back future immigration controls then we would back this in return.

Regina Miller
Republican Leader

Date12:50:58, July 29, 2018 CET
FromSecular Humanist Party
ToDebating the Ending Unnecessary Artificial Population Growth Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We of the secular humanist party do not believe that the economy is a zero-sum game as the NSLWP and PSP appear to believe. Historically when resources were depleted we found alternatives to perform the same tasks, sometimes even better. Technology brings new opportunities and new markets which generate new wealth. Our increase in technology for example has allowed smaller amounts of resources to be used to generate more food on a smaller amount of land. Limited petrol resources can be replaced with renewable ones and nuclear energy. These kinds of technology can sustain increased populations.

However, we also reject the proposition that it is against the freedom to choose to promote population growth. Without actually forcing people to have children there is no limitation of liberty.

Nevertheless, the SHP does not hold the view that we need to artificially increase our populations. We can generate additiional wealth without population increase by discovering new technologies, services, and goods. We consider this an unnecessary policy and will therefore vote in favour of abolishment.

Arthur Pinker (SHP)
Deputy Party Leader

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